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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: davidcycleback
My advice to the budding T206 Wagner entrepreneur is to buy all the T206 Honus Wagners reprints you see on eBay and Yahoo!, because there's got to be a chance that one of them is real, right? Sure, most of them will turn out to be duds, but it only takes one to be real and, boom, you're on easy street. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Mike P
Aaron suggests above |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: john/z28jd
I doubt my Wagner story helps but i didnt buy the reprint. It was given to me by an older seller who was leaving the card collecting business and had a table of about 15 cards left,mostly nice ones.I bought a Joss,pitching a Bresnahan,batting and a Beckley from him passing on the Mathewson card he had which was either the white cap or black cap. When i paid for the cards he gave me the reprinted Wagner as a bonus.He kept it on display in his store with the real t206s. I dont know where the guy was from exactly but it was somewhere close to Cherry Hill,NJ as that was where the show was and i remember taking his card just in case i wanted to buy the Mathewson later on which i never did. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Mike P
Thanks, John for the courtesy of your Wagner reprint story, and for the sad-amusing tale of the Ed Walsh break-in. I can just see that one in the local newspapers under a "Crime doesn't pay" headline. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Daniel Bretta
I just got an email from Mr. O'Keeffe who claims that he offered to interview me in the past, but I never had the "courage" to call him. That's either a flat out lie or his email went straight to my junkmail box which I don't even look at - it's a possiblility since he likes to leave the subject line blank in his emails. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Hmmmm...he emailed me again calling me a liar saying that he left me his phone number and I didn't call....I guess I didn't view that as a "request for an interview". |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Chad
Are you the only baseball card expert on the east coast? If he somehow couldn't get ahold of you, he couldn't find somebody else to interview? Crissakes, how far is SGC from the Daily News offices? REally, I just wish he'd sign in and copy and past even one posting that implied the card may be real but we wouldn't recognize it as such because of the race of the card's owners. Just one. For once, we all seem to agree on something. So at least we get that out of this! |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: David Smith
Maybe Mr. O'Keefe is too busy indulging in the Horny Goat Weed to respond..... |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Chad, he doesn't like me because I called him out on the DiMaggio bat (long story and for a different board). He still never answered my question on that one. I guess since he's the "reporter" he's the only one who can ask the questions. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: leon
btw, I think I have corresponded with Mr.O'keefe before......at any rate.. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Chad
That he doesn't like you doesn't give him license for shoddy reporting. All he's doing is helping to con men find a mark. That's low even by New York tabloid standards. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Dan Bretta
You can't give him the benefit of the doubt here because he says the feelings were "mixed" on the board. The way it is written it is obvious that both sentences are referring to Net 54. He just made it up, and that's why he can't come here to defend himself. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Chad, he writes for the NY Daily News. That's his license for shoddy reporting right there. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: davidcycleback
The funning thing is that, as most all T206 Wagners are sold in auctions where the seller |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: barrysloate
If these guys truly believed the card was real but felt that they would have trouble selling it because they are black, why not simply hire a broker (white of course) to sell the card for them and give him a fee for his work. Since the card is worth $1 million, that would still leave them with 900K+. The problem is there are so many loopholes in their story that everything they say can so easily be picked apart. Keeping their race out of the transaction would have been so simple but they are hellbent on all the attention they are getting from this. Their actions make no sense at all. By the way, Mr. O'Keefe interviewed me over the phone last year as he is doing a book on the T206 Wagner and he seemed at the time to be a reasonable guy. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Chad
Mr. O'Keefe is looking to dredge up some controversy in time for the arrival of his book. I bet this little episode will make a nice chapter in the book. I know Leon doesn't want us to use foul language, but this guy's a douche bag. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Mike P
Perhaps Connelly, the auctioneer, doesn't know that playing the race card is an opening gambit -- a ploy to gain advantage -- not a social commentary. But O'Keefe himself, whom Dan Bretta says is "reading this thread" should know better. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: dennis
with all the press these 2 guys attained from a reprint t206 wagner....they may be able to someday auction this card off as the single most famous (infamous) baseball card that ever existed. maybe they could get pro or grademycards to label it "the cobb/edwards wagner" auth(?). |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Lee Behrens
I talked to Mr. O'Keefe yesterday and also a bit back about the T206 Wagner (can't remember why I got called but did). He is straight forward and does not hide anything or pull any punches. I had not read the 2 quotes aboout the Net 54 reactions when speaking to him and since have emailed him about the quotes. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: John
I'm amazed you guys continue to give these two clowns, three if you include this Connelly guy even a second out of your lives by still discussing this at length. IMO |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
I don't know the writer of the article but I do deal with the Daily News and its writers very frequently. Trust me, they make mistakes but if pointed to one they usually acknowledge it. While the paper is a NY tabloid it has a larger circulation than almost any newspaper in the country - and NY readers are espeically nasty and unforgiving if they are misled. The article about the card was hardly a big story in the paper that day so it's hard to imagine that the error (and I agree it was an error) was made in order to drum up interest in the article. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: davidcycleback
I read today the article about the biggest buyer ever of Barry Bonds memorabilia and the guy pictured was a portly middle aged white business man. I read that he's not getting the prices he wants at resale, despite the plethora of press his collection has gotten. I'm curious how the Daily News would work this into the racism theory. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
A race card can not be played unless you deal it out. |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: David Smith
Gilbert, are you saying that you are not playing with a full deck?? |
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"Race card played in failure to sell Honus collectible"
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
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