BST Section: Has priceless become the norm rather than the exception?

[Snapolit1]

For those complaining that this is really trivial and not so important as to get aggravated about . . . I hate to break the bad news, but nothing we discuss on this board is actually important.

Just more filler to divert us from the stark reality that our days are numbered and no one has any idea what this is all about.

[LEHR]

People can obviously list their items however they want; but without a price and a scan/photo in the listing I just move on. I'm not wasting my time asking for information that IMO should be included in the bare minimum of creating a sales post.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Snapolitoji638

For those complaining that this is really trivial and not so important as to get aggravated about . . . I hate to break the bad news, but nothing we discuss on this board is actually important.

Just more filler to divert us from the stark reality that our days are numbered and no one has any idea what this is all about.

Well, vintage baseball cards are merely symbolic of how another year has passed, and yet we’re still chasing the same elusive ephemeral pieces of cardboard. No matter how desperately we hope that next card will make our collection complete, we know it’s not to be. The truth is, for the rest of our obsessive, nostalgic, wretched lives, we’ll always be missing that one holy grail. Inevitably, irrevocably; a complete collection? No such thing.

[brunswickreeves]

Just 1 more card…

[obcbobd]

I'd prefer to see a price in the BST section and if there is not one, I jsut move on. Can't say it bothers me too much. More bothered by seeing this at shows. It's one thing if someone has a rare Babe Ruth, but when they have a box or binder of 60s commons and no pricing; that I mind.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by gunboat82

I personally dislike the Deal or No Deal format, but I've sold more that way recently to drive engagement on my posts. I won't pretend to know how Facebook's algorithm works, but it appears that having people active in the comment section generates more traffic, resulting in more eyeballs and more sales.

I haven't had a situation where I received a higher offer than I was willing to accept, nor am I even realistically hoping for it. In my experience, someone always starts extremely low, usually with a comment like "Just to get you started." Then other people see that bid and go up from there in increments, like with most auctions. Most of the people bidding are high-volume resellers looking for new inventory to flip for a quick profit.

The risk of someone coming in too hard and too high is quite low. For me, the sole motivation is to avoid having my posts buried too quickly by the popular resellers who post in every vintage group at least once a day.

The DOND sites get the most hate of all Facebook card groups and I don't understand why. You go in knowing the deal, either bid or move on.

And for those not wanting to engage with dealers at shows with no prices, I disagree. I have found many deals with these types of sellers over the years.

[bigfanNY]

I list prices for mist of the items I post on BST. That said Amost all the time first message I get is "What is the best you can do on this" So I am asked to price my item and Bid against myself to start ball rolling. Just part of doing business.
J

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

"What is the best you can do on this"
J

My least favorite words.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

My least favorite words.

"Best for whom?" would be a good reply to that.

[Republicaninmass]

One answer


Too much ya greedy prick! You want so much you are actually EMBARRASSED to put a price, or think a board member is DUMB enough to overpay?

Guess what....the big money is selling, not sure who is buying, but seeing these private collections come up, and "make offer pricing" means one thing...mark the top of this market

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

...What is the best you can do on this...

Package securely and ship quickly.

ETA:

If it's a $100 card, come back with "The best I can do I sell it for $125; however, I figured I'd sell it to a Net54 member for $100."

[Republicaninmass]

You can always hope.Bob Kraft makes an offer.

The market is so manipulated


https://people.com/tom-brady-auction...re-bid-8718018

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

You can always hope.Bob Kraft makes an offer.

The market is so manipulated


https://people.com/tom-brady-auction...re-bid-8718018

Ted - why is it manipulation when Bob Kraft bids?

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by packs

I tend to think that anyone who doesn't price their card doesn't really want to sell it. They just want to see what they might get for it. And in that case, I'm not interested in making an offer or trying to pry your card from you for whatever inflated price you're holding out for.

This.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by raulus

Ted - why is it manipulation when Bob Kraft bids?

If you didn't know that it was some celebrity invite "whose is bigger" type auction, you'd think you could also find someone to say this price for a card! A complete joke

[ALR-bishop]

Originally Posted by packs

I tend to think that anyone who doesn't price their card doesn't really want to sell it. They just want to see what they might get for it. And in that case, I'm not interested in making an offer or trying to pry your card from you for whatever inflated price you're holding out for.

Unless it is that one card you need and have to have and hardly ever is available

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Unless it is that one card you need and have to have and hardly ever is available

Yes, except for that one card I have looked for for 20 yrs, I will never bid with that company again!!

As for prices in the BST. I wish people put them but I don't care.
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[ricktmd]

If Leon is OK with it and it isnt starting issues except being irritating, then I have no issue. At the same time I rarely buy on the board unless I see a deal. Being respectful I will not offer a low, below market price to a board member. Putting up cards without a price is a deal killer for many members and lowers the chance of selling and item IMO. I do feel if someone is putting up a high priced Ruth or Jackson item that only few can afford there is some sense to going priceless. On a card worth under 1,000.00 I think its lame, so I choose to ignore it. The problem is that so many items are now listed this way. Can anyone post what the approximate % of vintage cards being listed without a price is? Or has someone and I missed it

[JollyElm]

It's like going to a restaurant and finding they purposely don't put the prices in the menu.
I just say, "This place ain't for me," and hit the bricks for a KFC where the costs of the deliciousness are always looming large for all to see on the digital menu board above the deep fryer.

[4815162342]

I wonder how Bruce Dorskind would reply to this thread?

[mrreality68]

Hi

I do not mind if it is listed or not

I have done it both ways.

When I have cards that have Comps that I can compare and no the market value I price them.

However, it gets difficult when the card I have is rare and it does not come up often enough to have a comp then I do put taking offers.

I do not mind if someone does not send an offer, I do not mind if someone passes it up.

But Understand (But you do not have to like or agree)

I am trying to maximize my money when I am selling something and I do not want to short change my potential sale and I do not want to take a loss so by taking offers I see what people are willing to pay and if it is a number I like I accept it, if it is a number I do not like then I respectfully pass.

If someone emails me and says what is my price range or what I am asking I repsectully explain myself or if I have gotten offers I may advise them so they can decide how they want or not want to proceed

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If I list a card on ebay at a prohibitive BIN but with a best offer option, isn't that essentially the same thing? Do people have some moral issue with that?

Moral?! I can't speak for other people, but I don't have moral issues with any kind of pricing. Any objections I might have would be some combination of economic and aesthetic.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

I wonder how Bruce Dorskind would reply to this thread?

Whilst you were replying to this thread, we added several exceedingly rare examples of pre-war material to our collection.

[HercDriver]

For what it's worth, I hate it when sellers post the sales price, but not the item for sale. But at least I know what it's going to set me back...

Cheers,
Geno

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

For those complaining that this is really trivial and not so important as to get aggravated about . . . I hate to break the bad news, but nothing we discuss on this board is actually important.

Just more filler to divert us from the stark reality that our days are numbered and no one has any idea what this is all about.

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Well, vintage baseball cards are merely symbolic of how another year has passed, and yet we’re still chasing the same elusive ephemeral pieces of cardboard. No matter how desperately we hope that next card will make our collection complete, we know it’s not to be. The truth is, for the rest of our obsessive, nostalgic, wretched lives, we’ll always be missing that one holy grail. Inevitably, irrevocably; a complete collection? No such thing.

Truth!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Whilst you were replying to this thread, we added several exceedingly rare examples of pre-war material to our collection.

Pretty much spot on. Bravo! He was always good for some entertainment. He knew something about the stuff, but he did not have a good delivery, to put it mildly.
I will always remember him for the Boston Garter panel and threatening to sue himself.

Back to topic, I reiterate my preference for prices and pictures when listing things for sale....
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[Fred]

Originally Posted by Leon

Pretty much spot on. Bravo! He was always good for some entertainment. He knew something about the stuff, but he did not have a good delivery, to put it mildly.
I will always remember him for the Boston Garter panel and threatening to sue himself.

Back to topic, I reiterate my preference for prices and pictures when listing things for sale....
.

What's funny is that I read Leon's post and figured it had to be about Bruce. Then I went back to post $73 and sure enough. It's kind of strange how we continue to remember some of these collecting characters.

Just a thought. If someone doesn't want to put a price to something in the BST, then it's kind of for sale, but the person is waiting for an offer. It could always transform into the SOB or T (Sale, Offer, Buy, or Trade) section. If someone isn't going to put a price on something then have it go into a single bucket called the "O"ffer thread. This way people can have a column for cards that require an offer and nobody has to be annoyed with reading a Sale post without a price. Or, it can just stay the BST and we can have threads like this.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Fred

…the SOB or T (Sale, Offer, Buy, or Trade) section…

An SOB section? I like it.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Whilst you were replying to this thread, we added several exceedingly rare examples of pre-war material to our collection.

Who is (was) we?

How arrogant can one get.....

RiP Bruce Dorskind


The greed is strong, wait for fear

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Who is (was) we?

How arrogant can one get.....

RiP Bruce Dorskind


The greed is strong, wait for fear

Do you not remember the Bruces?

[Republicaninmass]

Lol, yes he sued himself and won !

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[JamesGallo]

My issue is that often the cards that dont have prices are higher end or rare. So having a starting point is helpful. If i see a post without a price or a scan i just move on. I dont see the point posting a card for sale without a picture. Similarly on a more expansive card it is helpful to know where your starting point is. If you post a price of 20k on a card that sells for 8-10k vs 20k on a 15k card that is a massive difference as i may be able to close the gap on the 15k card but not on the card at double market. That being said at least for the higher end cards i am not overly serious to bother inquiring, but a lower end card with a picture might be an impulse buy which is negated if the picture is missing which them kills the quick impulse.

James G