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Posted By: BigHurleyHick
I agree Anson. Last night I went crusing ebay just to see how much a piece of Babe Ruth bat would cost. I found several completed auctions for under $100. I also saw I could get a piece of Ted Williams bat for only $40. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
i don't see why people get so excited over a bat card. its just the inside of the bat. whoopty do, the inside of the bat. |
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Posted By: Cobby33
This is getting worse than the right to choose/right to life argument. Some people enjoy collecting "pieces of history." Some people don't. For those who don't, let's just agree to disagree. There is no sound "moral" or "ethical" argument here. Nobody's rights are being infringed upon and nobody is getting hurt. So--if you don't like the idea, don't collect them, but don't impose your self-righteous views on the rest of us and don't be so angry about it--it's memorabilia collecting after all, not foreign or domestic policy. |
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Posted By: Bryan
"Self righteous views" huh? You won't win any friends or arguments that way. You do realize this is a vintage baseball card board right? |
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Posted By: Adam Smith
Talk about self-righteous..... |
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Posted By: Anson
I realize that game-used clipped cards aren't going away. I just think that you DO have to draw the line with vintage players' stuff. What's next, the Ted Williams "Piece of the Head" cards? |
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Posted By: Anonymous
Bryan: I am here neither to win friends nor arguments. I have plenty of friends and have won plenty of arguments. I'm also not interested in "making a buck" and have absolutely no interest in having a piece of the Declaration of Independence. |
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Posted By: Bryan
Cobby33 & Adam - How about you answer my question. I am trying to figure out where you would draw the line since you support it. |
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Posted By: Bryan
It is obvious that we are not going to come to an agreement here and even if we did it isn't going to change anything in the long run. |
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Posted By: Joann
Bryan, |
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Posted By: leon
This is an open board, even to me..... I think that most folks on this board would find cutting up jersey's, bats etc....to be idiotic. I would agree with that. IF folks want to collect that stuff more power to them and this IS America....those are my thoughts....regards |
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Posted By: Bryan
Joann, |
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Posted By: Cobby33
Bryan: |
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Posted By: jay behrens
There are a number of copies of the Declaration of Independence in private hands. I think there are something close to 12 copies known to exist. The last one being found when a painting was removed from it frame and the DoC being hidden behind the frame backing. |
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Posted By: zach
Amen Jay ! Great post ! I'm with you 102 percent |
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Posted By: Cat
I personally think anyone (Upper Deck or anyone else) cutting up jerseys or bats of players like Cobb, Jackson, or Ruth to sell by the piece should be taken out to the back forty and SHOT. Those UD cards with the chopped up signatures were pathetic, but on the other hand I could care less if some one bought a Van Gogh and sold it by the square inch. It's just my taste!!! |
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Posted By: Joann
One of the little themes I run across in law school is whether "reasonable people can disagree" on something. A lot of times this board illustrates that perfectly for me. Just read this thread for the passion, thought and intellect that people have put into supporting their respective positions, even as the positions themselves vary widely. So many different shades of this issue have emerged. Talk about reasonable people disagreeing. Just an observation. |
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Posted By: Cobby33
Jay: What may be "meaningless and worthless" to you may not be the same to somebody else. To me, most "art" is meaningless and worthless, yet I don't impose my values on those who collect or enjoy art. |
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Posted By: William Brumbach
For what it's worth, Upper Deck is a privately held company with no stock holders. Topps, on the other hand, is publicly traded. As of right now they are the only two players left in the modern card game. |
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Posted By: Bryan
Cobby |
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Posted By: Cobby33
Bryan: |
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Posted By: Al Crisafulli
I'm not sure which side of the fence I fall on with respect to this argument, because in my opinion both sides have valid points. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Al, I agree in part, but it shouldn't take a chopped up bat or jersey to get those types of conversations going. I love my son, but I would find better, less destructive ways to talk to my son about these things. |
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Posted By: Al Crisafulli
Like I said, Jay, I can see both sides of the fence. Actually, until I saw my son's eyes light up, I was firmly on your side. |
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Posted By: identify7
I wonder how often a kid opens up a pack of cards, finds a game used or its equivalent, and thinks "Id like to find out more about this player's part in baseball history". |
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Posted By: Al Crisafulli
I guess that's not a value judgement I'm capable of making. I don't have a window into the mind of all kids, just the ones that live in my house with me. |
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Posted By: t206King
Kids cant afford packs lol i remeber when they were 25 cents in the early 90s, with 18 cards in them. kids have to fork out mum and dads money for a pack of only 4 cards. those were the days... |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
I recently purchased a vintage scrapbook (really a vintage pile of pages as it turned out) because a pretty rare set of boxing cards was in it and I needed one for my set. The cards were cut into silhouettes around the fighters' images (like an E125 looks) and nicely pasted down on the page. Now, the set has been "ruined" by the cutting and tbe book has been ruined by aging, so I'm keeping the one "card" I need anyway cutting up the book to get at the cards. |
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