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Posted By: Wesley
The top card is the stronger one. Still, someone paid over $3600 for that card? |
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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth
I assume Marc posted the scans because the bottom one is in fact the 8. |
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Posted By: Jim Crandell
Boy that bottom one is a beauty--borderline 9--whoever bought that is one smart guy--thanks Marc. |
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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth
Wes, no indeed, the top one probably sold for $10. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
It's hard to tell the sharpness of the corners from the two pics but the chipping is pretty clear. |
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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth
Jim, I don't think Marc or anyone else me included is trying to do that. I think the point, not at all personal to you, is that once in a while at the fringes there are times when the flip trumps the card and results in rather remarkable price disparities that would not exist but for the set registry phenomenon. The Witt just happens to be a good illusration of that. I think even you would admit that out of the holder you probably would choose the top card for a raw set. EDIT to fix typo. |
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Posted By: Al C.risafulli
Huh? |
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Posted By: leon
I would definitely, absolutely, pay thousands and thousands more for one of them, however I can't tell which one ...... |
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Posted By: Brian
I like the top card, even if its the 7. If I owned it, and it were the 7, I would resubmit it 100 times or so. It would only need to hit an 8 one time to go 4x over the submission costs. |
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Posted By: Frank Evanov
Jim, I don't think anyone was "piling on, least of all me. If anything, Marc's post questions the consistency of PSA. |
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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
Here's a recent ebay sale of a PSA 7 card of Witt....Check-it out ! |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Most of the thread until that point concerned topics around the point that I paid $3,500 plus for the Witt. Then a post goes up which compares the one I bought to a 7. Everyone says the 7 is better. Its a very low move and certainly something I would not do. |
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Posted By: Wesley
You need to lighten up, Jim. I am sure everyone is happy that you now have a 1962 George Witt. Congratulations. |
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Posted By: Cat (ret.)
Who's George Witt? |
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Posted By: Rob Dewolf
Jim, |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Brian--I am happy--I would buy it again--I had a top all that was above that--its a brutal card to find. |
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Posted By: Wesley
The PSA population report shows six PSA 8 George Witt cards graded. Who owns the other five PSA 8s? |
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Posted By: Frank Evanov
Back to the topic: |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Frank -- nice card. |
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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth
Frank, very nice. What IS on the other side? |
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Posted By: JimCrandell
Ted, |
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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth
The gentleman who sold the PSA 7 Ted posted sells an awful lot of high grade commons, so if he chose to sell it rather than to try to resubmit it for an 8, there probably is a good reason it is in a 7 holder. |
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Posted By: Frank Evanov
The Other side: |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Frank, why is that not an 8 or 9? |
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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth
Pose looks identical to the #144 Goudey Ruth. |
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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
The simple answer to your inquiry is that it is a card that is typically O/C. |
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Posted By: Frank Evanov
Peter, I believe that picture is used for 3 of the 1933 Goudey Ruths. Full pose for #144 and cropped around the head for the Red and Yellow Ruths: |
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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
I think this ebay link tells the story....as is evident, most Witt's are O/C. Therefore, the combination of a |
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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth
What a bummer Ruth wasn't in 34 Goudey at all after having 4 cards in 33. I wonder if it had anything to do with Gehrig being the featured "spokesman"? |
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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth
One wonders, then, how these few came to be centered perfectly if every other one is off center. I used to wonder the same thing about the 65T Charlie Smith which back years ago when I was building that set was the holy grail in PSA 8. I think at the time Jim had one of only 3 copies. Virtually every one you would see was off center significantly; so HOW did just a few come to be well-centered? I wondered sometimes in my cynical moments if trimming was involved. |
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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted
We could start another Thread on cards that are consistently found O/C. |
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Posted By: Steve Clark
Not trimmed because to make a centered card that was originally off-centered would require noticeable size change. If you were to question such a card, one could say it was cut from a sheet. |
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Posted By: cmoking
Frank, nice pick up!!! |
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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth
All it takes to qualify for an 8 is 65-35 and I have seen worse. So a tiny bit of microtrimming could indeed make the difference. Theoretically of course. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Does anybody know where the Witt appeared on the sheet? Chances are it was in a vulnerable position, such as the corner or the edge. Those invariably are the toughest ones to find high grade. |
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Posted By: Peter_Spaeth
Barry I believe Ted already posted that he didn't think sheet placement was the issue. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
The thread got too long for me to reread. Sorry about that. |
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Posted By: Ron Lambert
I thought this card looked really nice for a 6. |
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Posted By: Frank Evanov
You're right Ron!! Nice one. |
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Posted By: Rick McQuillan
Jim, congrats on completing the 60-68 run. I'm curious about what is next on your quest. Are you going for 1969 or will you go the other way and start on the 1959's? |
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Rick, |
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