Dubious HOF Statistical Records

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Cubswin82

Is this true? If so...that’s a very impressive stat

Yes, it's true that he never surrendered a grand-slam.

IMO, it was a difference in pitching philosophy: Ryan seemed to see such occasions as personal challenges, while Palmer knew that an occasional bases-loaded-walk did less damage. Even as a big Nolan Ryan fan, I have to admit this.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Yes, it's true that he never surrendered a grand-slam.

IMO, it was a difference in pitching philosophy: Ryan seemed to see such occasions as personal challenges, while Palmer knew that an occasional bases-loaded-walk did less damage. Even as a big Nolan Ryan fan, I have to admit this.

It would be interesting to see how many Bases loaded walks each had.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Jim65

It would be interesting to see how many Bases loaded walks each had.

Ryan had 47 bases loaded walks, Palmer had 13.

[darwinbulldog]

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

[clydepepper]

I bet Ryan had a lot more bases loaded situations than Palmer and perhaps the percentage of those situations ending in a walk may actually be fairly close.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I bet Ryan had a lot more bases loaded situations than Palmer and perhaps the percentage of those situations ending in a walk may actually be fairly close.

I bet Ryan issued more walks than Palmer in any of the following

Bases empty
Man of first
Man on second
Man on third
Men on first and second
Men on first and third
Men on second and third
And bases full

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I bet Ryan issued more walks than Palmer in any of the following

Bases empty
Man of first
Man on second
Man on third
Men on first and second
Men on first and third
Men on second and third
And bases full

Pretty likely. Ryan was a K machine, striking out 49% more batters than the average of the next ten pitchers on the career leaderboard. But he was even more of a BB machine, walking 65% more batters than the average of the next ten pitchers (all of whom, speaking of dubious HOF records, are either in the HOF or are named Roger Clemens).

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I bet Ryan had a lot more bases loaded situations than Palmer and perhaps the percentage of those situations ending in a walk may actually be fairly close.

So if one pitcher puts 20 men on base and 4 score and the other pitcher puts 5 on and 1 scores, these pitchers are equal because the percentage is the same?

[itslarry]

This whole thread has been a really entertaining read. Thanks everyone for making my porcelain thrown time enjoyable

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by Jim65

So if one pitcher puts 20 men on base and 4 score and the other pitcher puts 5 on and 1 scores, these pitchers are equal because the percentage is the same?

Nicely done.