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Old 08-10-2022, 01:12 PM
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No, no I don’t. What does recuperating from an injury have to do with it? Nobody got hurt and needed to rehab. It’s the same as every season, they take time off, come to spring training, and then play 162 games. What does a short season the year before do with it? How does that stop them from pitching a few more innings? This makes no sense.
They didn't play 162 games in 2020. Pitchers who might be used to throwing 200 innings threw a third of that.
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They didn't play 162 games in 2020. Pitchers who might be used to throwing 200 innings threw a third of that.
But by the time the new season begins it's in the ancient past.
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What do you mean? It was a break unlike any other outside of a strike shortened season. It had never happened before so I don't know why you're saying it's routine.
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Okay, let’s pretend a short season, which has happened several times before and did not result in pitchers being unable to throw a full season, just magically eliminated the ability of starters to hurl in 2021. We’ll just assume this is true, with no evidence.

What does it matter? Are you contesting the trend of pitcher innings decreasing over time?

Even if, again without any evidence or reason, you are correct, it doesn’t even matter.
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Old 08-10-2022, 01:27 PM
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I'm saying you might start to see inning totals tick back up to 200 now that it's a full two years removed from the shortened season, which also started late and had an abbreviated spring training.

I guess you would just say it's a reflection of the times or something, maybe that it was just a coincidence, but 2021 was the first time pitchers led the league in innings pitched with counts under 200 since the 1994 strike season. You would say 2020 had nothing to do with that. I think it did.
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You could just as easily argue a pitcher throwing a shortened season would be more rejuvenated and less worn down for the next. I am just not seeing this, I guess.
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Do you have some abnormality to point to? Robbie Ray's 193 innings pitched to lead the AL is the lowest league leader total since 1994. The only other time a pitcher led the league while pitching under 200 innings was 1981, another strike season.

A pitcher has led their league in innings pitched while throwing less than 200 innings three times in modern history. Twice, it was during a strike shortened season. Once, it followed a pandemic shortened season. It was an abnormal thing to happen during a full season of baseball. I might be connecting dots that I can't prove are there, but it's an observation I made because it was unusual.
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What does it matter? Are you contesting the trend of pitcher innings decreasing over time?
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That it happened in a non strike season for the first time is NOT evidence it happened because it followed a short season. Nor is this single data point evidence that the reduction in SP innings is escalating faster than it was previously to back up my point.

It could support either contest here, but it’s entirely irrelevant to the point.
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Evidence? Maybe not. But it is a fact.
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