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Old 07-19-2016, 09:08 AM
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Default 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 3 Available in Complete 1952 Topps Set Break at National

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Just Collect, in partnership with RippingWax.com will feature a complete, 1952 Topps Baseball PSA Set Break LIVE at the National. One person from this set break will receive the hottest card in the hobby today, the 1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle “rookie,” that has been graded PSA 3 (an image of the actual card is pictured below). This incredible set break will be offered by VintageBreaks.com and will include all 407 1952 Topps cards graded by PSA – this includes all of the scarce high number series (cards #311-407). The live break will occur at the Vintage Breaks booth in the Case Break Pavilion at the upcoming National in Atlantic City. The date and time will be announced at www.vintagebreaks.com. Entries can be purchased now on www.VintageBreaks.com for $359.99 each while they last and if you purchase more than one spot in the break, each spot will be discounted to $349.99 each.

For those unable to attend the National you can still enter this historic 1952 Topps PSA set break. It will be streamed live online and the break video will be posted to Youtube for all to see!

This Vintage Set Break of a complete 1952 Topps PSA Set featuring the #311 Mickey Mantle PSA 3 is certain to be one of the highlights of what promises to be an exciting 2016 Atlantic City National. Once VintageBreaks.com sells all 407 entry slots, the numbers corresponding to the entrants and the cards in the set will be generated using a computerized random number generator – no pieces of paper in a hat or ping pong balls rolling in a cage – the set will be broken with true randomness . . . and in front of everyone at the National!

Entries are available now on a first-come, first-served basis. Participants need not be present at the National. To secure your spot today check out www.vintagebreaks.com. Full details and rules for the Vintage Break of the 1952 Topps PSA Set Break can be found at www.vintagebreaks.com. For any additional questions please send me a PM on here or contact Leighton Sheldon by email at Leighton@justcollect.com or by phone at (732)-828-2261.


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Wow... nice looking 3.

Anyone feeling lucky?
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Is there a breakdown of cards and their grades anywhere?
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Is there a breakdown of cards and their grades anywhere?


...and 406 more scans , for us centering weenies....

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Link to site with grades/pics: http://www.vintagebreaks.com/feature...opps-card.html

PSA GRADED BREAK HIGHLIGHTS:



#311 Mickey Mantle PSA 3


#312 Jackie Robinson PSA 3


#333 Pee Wee Reese PSA 4


#268 Bob Lemon PSA 8


#1 Andy Pafko PSA 4


#11 Phil Rizzuto PSA 3


#29 Ted Kluszewski PSA 7


#36 Gil Hodges PSA 4


#37 Duke Snider PSA 3.5


#65 Enos Slaughter PSA 7


#67 Allie Reynolds PSA 7


#88 Bob Feller PSA 4


#182 Billy Hitchcock PSA 7


#195 Minnie Minoso PSA 4


#215 Hank Bauer PSA 5


#216 Richie Ashburn PSA 5


#250 Carl Erskine PSA 6


#264 Roy Hartsfield PSA 7.5


#277 Early Wynn PSA 6


#261 Willie Mays PSA 3.5


#407 Ed Mathews PSA 3.5


#400 Bill Dickey PSA 8 OC


#315 Leo Durocher PSA 8 OC


#313 Bobby Thomson PSA 4


#344 Ewell Blackwell PSA 8 OC


#326 George Shuba PSA 7


#332 Tony Bartirome PSA 4


#334 Wilmer Mizell PSA 7


#356 Toby Atwell PSA 8 OC


#366 Dave Madison PSA 7


#372 Gil McDougald PSA 6


#379 Joe Rossi PSA 8 OC


#380 Clem Koshorek PSA 7


#384 Frank Crosetti PSA 4


#392 Hoyt Wilhelm PSA 4


#396 Dick Williams PSA 4


#399 Jim Fridley PSA 8 OC


#406 Joe Nuxhall PSA 4.5
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Hey Scott/JC:

I read:
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Once VintageBreaks.com sells all 407 entry slots, the numbers corresponding to the entrants and the cards in the set will be generated using a computer random number generator
So ALL 407 has to be sold to start? What if this does not happen? Does JustCollect buy the remaining slots?
At 359.99 a slot is a lot of $$$ and only 12 spot are sold so far of the 407.

I had a idea to share, maybe getting groups of friends and share the cost. Which I considered doing myself. If you get like 3 guys, that's 120$$ each, in which we would then re-sell the card and split the price.
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While it is anticipated that all 407 slots will sell out in advance of the expected VintageBreak at the National, in the event that the break does not sell out, the entry period will be extended, within reason, and the break will occur live, online at a date selected and announced upon the full sellout of the break.

An amazing 136 of the 407 cards are graded PSA 5 or better! That’s more than 33% of the set in EXCELLENT or better condition! A list of all of the cards and the associated grades should be available on the www.VintageBreaks.com website later today.
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The full list of grades are now available in addition to the images of 14 cards.

To clarify, since some have asked, you do not need to be present to enter the contest (you can do so online) and you do not have to attend the National to receive your prize.
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Weekend bump.
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You should consider doing a satellite sale. Sell 20 tickets for say 20 bucks winner gets an entry into the break. While a lot of people might not risk $360 plenty will take a shot at $10 or $20. Plus it gives you a little more profit.
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You should consider doing a satellite sale. Sell 20 tickets for say 20 bucks winner gets an entry into the break. While a lot of people might not risk $360 plenty will take a shot at $10 or $20. Plus it gives you a little more profit.
The poker player in me understands the satellite concept and while I greatly appreciate the suggestion, it would create a dynamic that would result in the offering being illegal.
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There are definitely some regulations concerning this kind of thing. And if done the wrong way could be a big legal issue. My thought is/was, since everybody is getting a physical and valuable product, they just don't know which one, it is not quite like gambling. That being said I am pretty sure our resident lawyers would recommend erring on the side of caution. Good luck with everything, JustCollect team.
And thanks again for being part of the Net54baseball community. It is appreciated. And last but not least, some of my best times at Nationals have been with Leighton. I hope to resurrect that next year (with you by our side, Scott!!)


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While it is anticipated that all 407 slots will sell out in advance of the expected VintageBreak at the National, in the event that the break does not sell out, the entry period will be extended, within reason, and the break will occur live, online at a date selected and announced upon the full sellout of the break.

An amazing 136 of the 407 cards are graded PSA 5 or better! That’s more than 33% of the set in EXCELLENT or better condition! A list of all of the cards and the associated grades should be available on the www.VintageBreaks.com website later today.
Still at 244. What is the within reason date? Curious for those who bought in...including myself

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My first time buying into something like this and not happy how this is shaking out. Bought one spot for me and one for a sick friend and was trying to give him something fun to focus on. Kind of sucks to be in limbo. If they couldn't sell a few spots at the show this doesn't sound hopeful at all.

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My first time buying into something like this and not happy how this is shaking out. Bought one spot for me and one for a sick friend and was trying to give him something fun to focus on. Kind of sucks to be in limbo. If they couldn't sell a few spots at the show this doesn't sound hopeful at all.
they could lower the price and refund the difference to the current buyers..
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My first time buying into something like this and not happy how this is shaking out. Bought one spot for me and one for a sick friend and was trying to give him something fun to focus on. Kind of sucks to be in limbo. If they couldn't sell a few spots at the show this doesn't sound hopeful at all.
Sorry to hear that, and good on you for trying to take his mind off of things.
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I would give them a chance to explain what they are going to do before breaking out the tar and feathers. They are good guys; give peace a chance.

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Unfortunately, the break did not sell out during the National.

VintageBreaks.com has every intention on completing the enrollment and running the break and expects a sell-out and the break very shortly.

VintageBreaks apologizes for any disappointment as this would've been spectacular to have headlined at the Breaking Pavilion.

Updates will be posted regularly on the VintageBreaks.com website and slots sales will be updated as quite a few were sold at the National.

Thank you to all that have participated so far, those that will in the future and thank you all for your patience.
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Unfortunately, the break did not sell out during the National.

VintageBreaks.com has every intention on completing the enrollment and running the break and expects a sell-out and the break very shortly.

VintageBreaks apologizes for any disappointment as this would've been spectacular to have headlined at the Breaking Pavilion.

Updates will be posted regularly on the VintageBreaks.com website and slots sales will be updated as quite a few were sold at the National.

Thank you to all that have participated so far, those that will in the future and thank you all for your patience.
Slot availability on your website has not changed since before the National ended. Can we get an update? I'm hoping this will still happen but not looking good.
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Slot availability on your website has not changed since before the National ended. Can we get an update? I'm hoping this will still happen but not looking good.
I will check on getting the count updated ASAP.
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Are there any updates?
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Still shows 244 spots left. I would have bought a couple if the price per spot was more in line with the value of the set being offered. Perhaps it's time to adjust the price and get this sold out.
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Still shows 244 spots left. I would have bought a couple if the price per spot was more in line with the value of the set being offered. Perhaps it's time to adjust the price and get this sold out.
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Still no set break and no refund. I'm being patient with these guys. Last communication I got was its happening.

Be interesting to see what happens. I don't usually mix work and pleasure, but occasionally being a class action lawyer comes in handy.
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Still no set break and no refund. I'm being patient with these guys. Last communication I got was its happening.

Be interesting to see what happens. I don't usually mix work and pleasure, but occasionally being a class action lawyer comes in handy.

I reached out to Sheldon about a 2 weeks ago and he responded that it was still a go and he would be happy to refund me at any time just let him know. I am willing to hang in a little longer but just about to call it quits as it does not look like it is going to sell out any time soon.
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Still no set break and no refund. I'm being patient with these guys. Last communication I got was its happening.

Be interesting to see what happens. I don't usually mix work and pleasure, but occasionally being a class action lawyer comes in handy.
I am sure this will get their attention!
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The price point is entirely too high, and one of the parties involved has a less than stellar reputation. I wish them luck, but those two items right there are probably big factors as to why this is nowhere close to selling out.
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At this point, the intention is still to follow through with the break.

Anyone that does not wish to wait can request a prompt refund by emailing: leighton@justcollect.com.
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The price point is entirely too high, and one of the parties involved has a less than stellar reputation. I wish them luck, but those two items right there are probably big factors as to why this is nowhere close to selling out.
Just out of curiosity, what is the comment about a less than stellar reputation referring to?
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Refund requested. My first and final foray into set breaks. Like I need this aggravation.
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one of the parties involved has a less than stellar reputation.
Exactly why I sat this one out and have passed on many, many 1940 Superman cards from Just Collect.
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This is kinda like Kickstarter.
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Thanks for the updates. When I did not see any traffic/info in about a month, I figured it was time to ask the status.

This is my first venture into a set break, so I'll hold on a little longer.

But it would be nice if the POC can put out an update every 2 weeks or so, even if it's no changes. Knowledge is power and when there's a total vacuum of no info for a month, one gets ansy.

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The VintageBreaks.com link takes you to the page but there is a message saying "Whoops, Our Bad". A great concept to break a 52 set, hope it gets completed.

Site is back up


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I also emailed for a refund. Have not heard anything yet. Let me know if anyone else does.
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What was beyond frustrating was I went to their table at the National to check in on the status of this and say hello and there was a very pleasant woman sitting at an empty table (right as you entered the room) who basically told me she had no information on the break and was just sitting there for someone. Yeah, good way to sell the remaining 200 plus spots in your break. Have someone there who has no information on anything.
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To anyone that has requested a refund prior to Noon today (Sept 7, 2016), you should have received an email reply from Leighton. If you have not, please resend your request to Leighton@justcollect.com.

I will work diligently to provide a line of communication, including updates and pertinent information from VintageBreaks.com, David and Leighton and provide a regular update (more often if circumstances require).

To reiterate, anyone that prefers not to wait for the break to sell out and wishes a prompt refund, please email Leighton@justcollect.com with your request.
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sorry...did hear from leighton (president) that he would forward to operations manager to take care of today (yesterday). Still waiting....

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Have asked for a refund now three times, including a direct email to Leighton, and no response.

Seems these guys are hellbent on destroying their reputation on the most influential baseball collecting forum there is. Interesting approach.



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To anyone that has requested a refund prior to Noon today (Sept 7, 2016), you should have received an email reply from Leighton. If you have not, please resend your request to Leighton@justcollect.com.

I will work diligently to provide a line of communication, including updates and pertinent information from VintageBreaks.com, David and Leighton and provide a regular update (more often if circumstances require).

To reiterate, anyone that prefers not to wait for the break to sell out and wishes a prompt refund, please email Leighton@justcollect.com with your request.
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Have asked for a refund now three times, including a direct email to Leighton, and no response.

Seems these guys are hellbent on destroying their reputation on the most influential baseball collecting forum there is. Interesting approach.
It certainly doesn't seem to be a priority. As a non-participant I am stunned, really, at how badly this has been handled. And it seems with the refund requests the completion is getting farther away, not closer.
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Not losing sleep over it. Have a lot of friends down where they are.
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Not losing sleep over it. Have a lot of friends down where they are.
If its by credit card it would be an easy refund.. Just seeing what they wanted for a slot to me didnt make sense that people would fill up the slots.

I do think you will get paid eventually though if they want to have any type of a reputation
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Admitting you made a mistake is what they should have done weeks ago. Everyone makes mistakes. Yanking a lot of people chains is the wrong approach. If you are running a business and can't timely refund a few hundred dollars something is very wrong.
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Admitting you made a mistake is what they should have done weeks ago. Everyone makes mistakes. Yanking a lot of people chains is the wrong approach. If you are running a business and can't timely refund a few hundred dollars something is very wrong.
agreed...funny how 'rich' people will take your money but when it comes to pay something back..even a few hundred its like pulling teeth..maybe thats how people stay rich...

Its not like the money was used to buy something, like to pay for a an event that hasnt taken place. it should be real easy to click a few times on the keyboard. Plus if one guy is saying the other guy is in control of the money, why not just pay the refund now to the customer and get the money from that other guy. Why make the customer wait..
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agreed...funny how 'rich' people will take your money but when it comes to pay something back..even a few hundred its like pulling teeth..maybe thats how people stay rich...
I owned a construction company for 20 years and that old couple that had to save to have work done always tried to pay before the work was finished. Every "rich" person and I do mean every one took weeks and sometimes months to pay. As a contractor we all know this is how it works and they do get charged a much higher rate because of this.
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Have asked for a refund now three times, including a direct email to Leighton, and no response.

Seems these guys are hellbent on destroying their reputation on the most influential baseball collecting forum there is. Interesting approach.
If that was their goal it certainly seems they have succeeded. I can't imagine doing business with them ever again. I did not buy into this break when I saw what was being offered. 407 x $350 is over $140k. If they spent close to half of that on the set I would be surprised. And a 30k estimate for an off center PSA 3 Mantle seems pretty ridiculous. I would expect that card to sell for less than 20k, and am confident I could pick up an off center 4 for less.

I hope those who bought in get their money back one way or another.
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And a 30k estimate for an off center PSA 3 Mantle seems pretty ridiculous. I would expect that card to sell for less than 20k, and am confident I could pick up an off center 4 for less.
FWIW, That card, the exact same one, was sold by PWCC on 7/7/16 for $23,600.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...p2047675.l2557
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