NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Postwar Sportscard Forums > Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-07-2021, 09:18 AM
profholt82's Avatar
profholt82 profholt82 is offline
Adam
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 229
Default Cardsaver Failed Me

Ugh. So, I was out of town over the weekend, and stopped in a card shop while I was there. I found a few nice cards and negotiated a deal. Each card was in a card saver, and they put them in a little brown paper bag. I placed it in the chest pocket of my coat (a thick ski jacket because it's cold in the midwest ;p). And I went about the rest of my day, leaving the bag in there instead of putting it in the glove compartment or suitcase or literally anywhere else which would have kept them safer.

At some point, I must have pressed my chest up against something because one of the cards has a long wrinkle going through it now. All I can think of was when I was driving, I turned and reached to grab something from the back seat, and either the belt or the side of the seat would have been digging into my chest momentarily. That's all I can think of.

Anyway, I feel like an idiot, and the whole episode makes me sad. I've got that sinking feeling in my stomach about it. I mean, in the condition I bought it, it was only about VG/EX, but it's not the money exactly. After negotiating the lot of cards, I'd estimate I paid 120/25 or so for the Kaline, so not a huge deal financially or anything. It's more the fact that this card was in great shape having survived since 1955, and after one day in my possession, now it's wrinkled.

So I feel just awful about it. Have any of you ever done anything like this? Misery loves company.


Here's the card. At least it doesn't show as much from the front. It's difficult to see the wrinkle in the pictures, but it literally goes through nearly the entire length of the card.



Last edited by profholt82; 12-07-2021 at 09:19 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-07-2021, 09:43 AM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 8,962
Default

It looks to be in a lot better shape than the Mantle card Costas is said to carry in his wallet
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-07-2021, 09:50 AM
jchcollins's Avatar
jchcollins jchcollins is offline
J0hn Collin$
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: NC
Posts: 3,234
Default

Cardsavers and toploaders both generally do the job, but you still have to be somewhat careful with them. Sorry to hear...
__________________
Postwar vintage stars & HOF'ers.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-07-2021, 11:19 AM
hcv123 hcv123 is offline
Howard Chasser
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 3,425
Default Of course

Most of us have been there! I left a 1955 Pirates type 1 team photo in the envelope it was mailed in for too long (think months) and realized when I opened it that some humidity must have gotten in and caused the photo to stick to the mailing envelope - part of the photo came off on the envelope! Forgive yourself - you're human - make a mental note to do it differently the next time and move on. Not like it was a one of a kind or anything.
__________________
I have been a Net 54 member since 2009 and have an Ebay store since 1998 https://www.ebay.com/usr/favorite_things

Cards for sale: https://www.flickr.com/photos/185900663@N07/albums

I am actively buying and selling vintage sports cards graded and raw. Feedback as a buyer: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=297262

I am accepting select private consignments of quality vintage cards (raw or graded) and collecting "want" lists for higher end ($1K+) vintage cards.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-07-2021, 11:28 AM
Bestdj777 Bestdj777 is offline
Chris
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 2,567
Default

I keep a lot of my cards in my office, which has terrible lighting. I got a rare, although not to valuable, Mantle test issue. When it arrived in the mail, I opened it up on the main floor of my house where the lighting is better and removed it from the top loader to inspect it. It was just as described so I turned around to head down to the office and, in doing so, rammed the card directly into the door jam. Smushed one of the corners. No idea why I didn’t put it right back in the top loader before moving it to my office but that is the first and last time I’ll make that mistake… still annoyed at myself.
__________________
Mantle Master Set - as complete as it is going to get
Yankees Game Used Hat Style Run (1923-2017): 57/60 (missing 2008/9 holiday hats & 2017 Players Weekend)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-07-2021, 12:59 PM
Volod Volod is offline
Steve
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NEOH
Posts: 1,070
Default

Like a sizeable portion of the general population, I also suffer from unconscious self-destructive impulses. My disfunction usually takes the form of physical abuse of various parts of my anatomy - minor injuries up to occasional bone breakage - but once in a while the inner animus gets directed at objects, like careless handling of wine glasses, dropping a slice of bread buttered side down. Fortunately, I don't handle most of my card collection very often, so it has escaped unharmed - so far. How come there is no emoji for empathy?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-07-2021, 01:43 PM
midmo's Avatar
midmo midmo is offline
Justin
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Missouri
Posts: 783
Default

It sucks, but it happens. I think my worst incident was two or three years ago when I was cracking out my graded '53 cards to put the set in an album. I was watching tv while doing it and got sloppy. The screwdriver slipped and my formerly PSA 3 Jackie Robinson got hit. I was almost done too. I got a little gun shy after that so the two remaining cards (Mantle and Paige) remain graded.

1953Jackie.jpg
__________________
137 successful b/s/t transactions

My collection: https://www.instagram.com/collectingbrooklyn/
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-07-2021, 01:51 PM
ASF123 ASF123 is offline
Andrew
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Chicago
Posts: 483
Default

Oof. Brutal.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-07-2021, 01:52 PM
mintacular's Avatar
mintacular mintacular is offline
Patrick N.
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 3,908
Default Podres

I remember trying to crack a '57 Topps Johnny Podres out of a PSA 7 or so slab to insert into my raw set and when I clipped the corner of the slab and cracked it some how the motion created a noticeable corner crease on the card and yes I was p***ed at myself for a while. Wasn't a huge financial loss but I wanted the card
__________________
My First YouTube Video:
https://youtu.be/1nW2r1NgdOA
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-07-2021, 01:58 PM
jchcollins's Avatar
jchcollins jchcollins is offline
J0hn Collin$
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: NC
Posts: 3,234
Default

I've not (yet, anyway) had a memorable incident with a Cardsaver, but I did turn an SGC 5.5 '56 Clemente into about a 2 when cracking it out a few years back. Plastic shard got between the case and the card and just dug right in causing noticeable surface paper loss.
__________________
Postwar vintage stars & HOF'ers.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-07-2021, 02:02 PM
ASF123 ASF123 is offline
Andrew
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Chicago
Posts: 483
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jchcollins View Post
I've not (yet, anyway) had a memorable incident with a Cardsaver, but I did turn an SGC 5.5 '56 Clemente into about a 2 when cracking it out a few years back. Plastic shard got between the case and the card and just dug right in causing noticeable surface paper loss.
Yet another reason I buy 'em raw 'n' flawed!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-07-2021, 02:04 PM
jchcollins's Avatar
jchcollins jchcollins is offline
J0hn Collin$
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: NC
Posts: 3,234
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ASF123 View Post
Yet another reason I buy 'em raw 'n' flawed!
Yep. I replaced that one eventually with a PSA 4.5 that will not be getting busted out of the slab.
__________________
Postwar vintage stars & HOF'ers.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-08-2021, 08:09 AM
Gr8Beldini Gr8Beldini is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 457
Default

Ya know... if you have a stack of cards in card savers and they were in your shirt pocket, I think it would take a significant shot to cause damage like that... and only one card was damaged and not the others? I'd bet that the crease was there when you bought it and you didn't notice it until later. You check the card for creases and the front shows nothing, very likely the lighting was inadequate and you glanced at the back quick, saw that there was no wax stain, and assumed all was well.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-08-2021, 03:20 PM
profholt82's Avatar
profholt82 profholt82 is offline
Adam
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 229
Default

@Gr8Beldini

You know, that has crossed my mind. The store was dimly lit, and the crease is difficult to see on the front. No big shots that I can remember, but I did turn and reach for something in the back seat while at a red light or something. And I really stretched for it. That would have dug the seat belt into it. And I assumed it was the outside card, so it took the force of it. But I guess now that I think of it, it is possible that the card was already creased, and I didn't look close enough in the store. They were really busy, and I studied the front, but the lighting was poor. I can't say that I studied the back beyond glancing at it. Perhaps I just overpaid for a creased card. Hahaha

What are you gonna do? I think my seatbelt issue was the likely culprit, but maybe not. I really appreciate everyone's comments. And I feel bad for some of the accidents you guys have had over the years as well. They really are fragile collectibles. What a hobby.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-08-2021, 04:05 PM
jchcollins's Avatar
jchcollins jchcollins is offline
J0hn Collin$
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: NC
Posts: 3,234
Default

Don't be too hard on yourself. We've all done it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by profholt82 View Post
@Gr8Beldini

You know, that has crossed my mind. The store was dimly lit, and the crease is difficult to see on the front. No big shots that I can remember, but I did turn and reach for something in the back seat while at a red light or something. And I really stretched for it. That would have dug the seat belt into it. And I assumed it was the outside card, so it took the force of it. But I guess now that I think of it, it is possible that the card was already creased, and I didn't look close enough in the store. They were really busy, and I studied the front, but the lighting was poor. I can't say that I studied the back beyond glancing at it. Perhaps I just overpaid for a creased card. Hahaha

What are you gonna do? I think my seatbelt issue was the likely culprit, but maybe not. I really appreciate everyone's comments. And I feel bad for some of the accidents you guys have had over the years as well. They really are fragile collectibles. What a hobby.
__________________
Postwar vintage stars & HOF'ers.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 12-08-2021, 04:59 PM
sb1 sb1 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,016
Default

I believe that is a natural stock wrinkle and was probably there when you bought the card and just did not see it. It would have had to have really been bent in your pocket to create that.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 12-11-2021, 01:23 PM
mmcgruff mmcgruff is offline
Rick
Mike Mc.Gr@il
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Georgia
Posts: 153
Default

Oh I’m sorry to hear about your mishap. Such a shame. An Al Kaline too.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 12-11-2021, 01:40 PM
Zach Wheat Zach Wheat is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,663
Default

Don't feel bad. I bought a nice T206 Cy Young and somehow managed to throw it away with the packaging it came in. Existed for a hundred years before me, but put it in my hands for no more than a minute........
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 12-11-2021, 04:41 PM
Volod Volod is offline
Steve
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NEOH
Posts: 1,070
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zach Wheat View Post
Don't feel bad. I bought a nice T206 Cy Young and somehow managed to throw it away with the packaging it came in. Existed for a hundred years before me, but put it in my hands for no more than a minute........
Did the same with a '54 B Mays card that I paid a few hundred bucks for. About a week after removing it from the mailer, I wanted to look at it again and could not find it in the box where it should have been. Horrified, I tried to mentally reconstruct everything I had done after opening the package and could only come to the conclusion that I must have absent-mindedly misplaced the card in with the wrapping that I had tossed out. I spent a week searching all through everything I could imagine touching in my den before giving up. Several times during the search I passed over an old folder on my desk because I thought I hadn't touched it in years. Wouldn't you know, just happened to open it one day months later, and there was Willie, grinning goofily at me, as if he had really put one over.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 12-11-2021, 05:13 PM
egri's Avatar
egri egri is offline
Sco.tt Mar.cus
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Norfolk, VA
Posts: 1,788
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zach Wheat View Post
Don't feel bad. I bought a nice T206 Cy Young and somehow managed to throw it away with the packaging it came in. Existed for a hundred years before me, but put it in my hands for no more than a minute........
Oof.
__________________
Signed 1953 Topps set: 264/274 (96.35 %)
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 12-11-2021, 05:15 PM
Eric72's Avatar
Eric72 Eric72 is online now
Eric Perry
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Philadelphia Suburbs
Posts: 3,422
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Volod View Post

...one day months later, and there was Willie, grinning goofily at me...
Batting Champ

World Series Champ

Hide-and-Seek master.
__________________
Eric Perry

Currently collecting:
T206 (132/524)
1956 Topps Baseball (189/342)

"You can observe a lot by just watching."
- Yogi Berra
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 12-11-2021, 06:27 PM
Kevin Kevin is offline
Kevin from Franklin Square, LI
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Long Island
Posts: 663
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zach Wheat View Post
Don't feel bad. I bought a nice T206 Cy Young and somehow managed to throw it away with the packaging it came in. Existed for a hundred years before me, but put it in my hands for no more than a minute........
Pained reading this
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 12-11-2021, 06:56 PM
Gary Dunaier's Avatar
Gary Dunaier Gary Dunaier is offline
"Thumbs Down Guy"
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 785
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zach Wheat View Post
Don't feel bad. I bought a nice T206 Cy Young and somehow managed to throw it away with the packaging it came in.
The same thing happened to Barry Halper.
__________________
The GIF of me making the gesture seen 'round the world has been viewed over 375 million times!
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 12-11-2021, 10:34 PM
todeen's Avatar
todeen todeen is offline
Tim Odeen
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,926
Default

I bought a trimmed Babe Ruth 1934 butterfinger. My only Ruth. I kept it in a magazine soft plastic holder with tape and a backing board - like a comic. With the price surge I decided to sell it. Buyer wanted better pics outside of the plastic. I removed it fine no problem. But instead of using a brand new magazine cover with plastic over the adhesive I tried to reuse the old one. The adhesive grabbed the face of the premium. They are so fragile that I knew trying to remove it would destroy the front. Luckily I had collectors insurance and was able to recoup my money... but damn. Babe had survived beautifully until he showed up in my house.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
__________________
Barry Larkin, Joey Votto, Tris Speaker, 1930-45 Cincinnati Reds, T206 Cincinnati
Successful deals with: Banksfan14, Brianp-beme, Bumpus Jones, Dacubfan (x5), Dstrawberryfan39, Ed_Hutchinson, Fballguy, fusorcruiser (x2), GoCalBears, Gorditadog, Luke, MikeKam, Moosedog, Nineunder71, Powdered H20, PSU, Ronniehatesjazz, Roarfrom34, Sebie43, Seven, and Wondo
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Gavelsnipe failed me. Howe’s Hunter Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 80 10-06-2020 06:26 AM
Cardsaver IIs vintagebaseballcardguy Football Cards Forum 8 09-21-2017 04:59 PM
Failed Test WhenItWasAHobby Soccer / Golf / Testing Forum 0 07-04-2016 07:37 AM
Failed login attempts? Heads up .... Leon Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 5 04-07-2015 06:52 AM
Failed The Light Test ALR-bishop Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 10 02-04-2014 09:34 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:06 PM.


ebay GSB