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Yikes this is on probstein and unless someone corrects me I do not think is legit at all
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Sta...1&LH_Auction=1 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Sta...t&LH_Auction=1 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Sta...ff4ds&LH_All=1 Last edited by Econteachert205; 10-09-2020 at 05:46 PM. |
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Thank you for responding. I would think Probstein would know better. So much of this junk is selling and it’s too bad because it causes people to be soured on the really great legit star products.
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Garbage
Are those common fakes? I have never seen them before.
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This is why I am compiling a list of all known fakes. They all seem to fall into three categories:
1. Fantasy sets: Almost all of which were part of the 1997 shop at home scandal and bear Levin coa’s. I haven’t yet determined how many different of these sets were made and I add as I see them. 2. Reprints: mostly of Jordan’s and high end rcs. Often sold with the rp designation but also sometimes passed as unknown or real. It seems like one way to discern most of these is the lack of topcoat light gloss surface on the front. The photo is often not as clear as well. Often factory star cards had ink bleed on the sides and reprints or sheet cut will not. As the prices rise more and more seem to come out. If anyone remembers the shop at home scandal I’d love to hear more but my guess is the print run on those sets is 10000 plus so yes they are prevalent. Last edited by Econteachert205; 10-16-2020 at 07:46 AM. |
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Here is something else to be aware of with these star cards:
There are definitely uncut sheets out there. In fact many sets were sold as sheets at the time. This means many sheet cut cards exist out there. So far I have seen: 83-84 all star lakers champs 1985-1986 featuring jordan set, best of new and much of the 86 set 1984-1985 set featuring Jordan 101 and olmypic 1983-84 Bullets and kings oddly with the Carl Yaz set 1986 Best of Best with Magic Johnson set (according to basketball gold these sets can only be submitted by Schonco to Beckett for grading although I do not know if that information is current). It is my understanding that many of the raw cards in these sets are in fact sheet cut. 1986 court kings Portland 5x7 5x7 red dunk set with 5x7 pistons and 5x7 lakers and 5x7 rockets 5x7 sixers last 11 ROY set, all rookie team, Dale Murphy baseball set, rod carew set, coaches set, Kareem set and Nolan ryan strikeout king card all on one sheet It is very likely that certain raw cards are in fact sheet cut and won't grade, so look closely at edges. Also if cards are being sold as "prototypes" and seem larger than normal, it is likely they are just sheet cut with pieces of the sheet left on. Last edited by Econteachert205; 10-15-2020 at 06:26 AM. |
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Does Beckett know what it is doing? I am not being snarky; if I decide to buy a Star card that is Beckett graded can I at least take for granted that I am not buying a fake, reprint or SAH fantasy card?
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