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Old 07-09-2020, 06:01 PM
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Also if Koufax had the benefit of modern medicine he probably would have been the best lefty if all time.

I do love this debate and I'm actually a huge Koufax fan, but Don Mattingly would be a 1st ballot HOFer if we just looked at 4 or 5 years.

That's just my opinion obviously.

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Old 07-09-2020, 06:03 PM
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I'll go with Lefty Grove.
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:07 PM
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Rube Waddell is my pick. He was a HOFer without them but imagine what he could have put together with all his faculties. Strike out king 6 years in a row. Out of the game at 33. Only threw two pitches.
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:17 PM
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Koufax gets my vote. The best pitcher I ever saw. His curveball was sick
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Forgot to add that Koufax had virtually no run support
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Randy Johnson is the best lefty in my lifetime.
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Kevin

As a young dude, I saw Koufax pitch (1955 - 1966), and I agree with you in the post-WWII era.


In the era between WWI and WWII, then my guy is....…





And, in the pre-WWI era, there were no better southpaws than the guy from Gettysburg...…




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Forgot to add that Koufax had virtually no run support

Park effect - partially why his numbers are also so good.
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Also if Koufax had the benefit of modern medicine he probably would have been the best lefty if all time.
I don't know. Arthritis is a kind of tough draw among non-lethal diseases. A lot of advances have led to better quality of life and basic functionality, but not at a peak level of performance. I am actually really happy to see him still able to get round at his age. I have a brother in law with RA that has really had to struggle and work hard just to stay able to walk and drive.
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Also if Koufax had the benefit of modern medicine he probably would have been the best lefty if all time.

I do love this debate and I'm actually a huge Koufax fan, but Don Mattingly would be a 1st ballot HOFer if we just looked at 4 or 5 years.

That's just my opinion obviously.

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I agree with you totally on Mattingly, and I agree this is a fun debate. But if we were giving Koufax the benefit of modern medicine, we should probably give it to Grove, too, right?
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I agree with you totally on Mattingly, and I agree this is a fun debate. But if we were giving Koufax the benefit of modern medicine, we should probably give it to Grove, too, right?
Mattingly don't have the stats to be hall of fame. One really great year. Never had a 40 homer season and NEVER was in world series.
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