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Old 09-12-2021, 12:37 PM
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Unpopular opinion, but Jeffries resume is far superior to Johnsonís.

Johnson beat Jeanette, Langford (who wasnít really a heavyweight even then), a washed up Fitzsimmons in 1907, Burns, and he defended his title against only middling competition and champions at lower weight classes (OíBrien, Ketchell), and a washed up retired Jeffries after he quit and become a 300 pound fatso. His actual record is not very strong. Compare it to Jeffries resume. He lost to Jeanette (who he beat far more often), Choynski and Hart before he was washed up.

Johnson has the socially popular narrative and biography suited to its audience today. Jeffries has the ring record.
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Not sure if this counts, but I recently picked up this partial set from Japan. I've always liked Rikidozan so thought it would be fun to hunt down the missing cards. Wish me luck. :P
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This RPPC looks like Joe Louis, Willie Pep, Mike Jacobs and some others gathered in Jacobs' office for some sort of signing. Since Jacobs looked pretty lively but dropped dead in 1953, I am guessing this is pre-1953.
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Not sure if this counts, but I recently picked up this partial set from Japan. I've always liked Rikidozan so thought it would be fun to hunt down the missing cards. Wish me luck. :P
I believe the cards were released as a box set, as a child's game, I think.

Singles for sale may be a very rare occurrence due to the nature of the set.

I was the second highest bidder of the auction. I would have bidded more if the Thesz cards were complete.
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I believe the cards were released as a box set, as a child's game, I think.

Singles for sale may be a very rare occurrence due to the nature of the set.

I was the second highest bidder of the auction. I would have bidded more if the Thesz cards were complete.
Yes, I think you're right. The (partial) set looks pretty nice person.
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Nice stuff, guys. That 51 Sullivan looks sharp.
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Not exactly a "pickup", more of a "found tucked away", lol.
Has weird defect on it, looked like a calcium deposit that might brush off. But under magnification it looks like paper is bubbled? As you can see it goes through to both sides. Never saw anything like it before.
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Looks like some kind of chemical deposit. That signature looks good enough to make it worthwhile to have a conservator look at it and see what can be done.

Meanwhile my big get for the...year:



Overpaid for it but when you see the right card for your collection, sometimes you have to say WTF, make your move. After all, I am Exhibitman...
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Picked up a couple of N162s.
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Nice cards guys
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1959 Stella:




These two HOFers are the only ones I've seen in the set and fought a trio of classic 140# title fights, which is probably why Ortiz is in the set (the other fighters I've seen are all Italian).
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Been awhile since I posted a pickup. Was happy to get this Nelson, I have no expectation of completing an 80 card master, but hoping to build 'as many as I can reasonably get'. The images in T224/T229 are fantastic quality for their small size. This one cost a bit more than I would want it too because it's 4 VG/EX range, but it's hard to being picky on condition with the tougher sets. 3 down, 77 to go.
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Recently picked this up.

Always loved that card. Have never had it myself.

Nice pick-up
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Always loved that card. Have never had it myself.

Nice pick-up
Thanks Dave. Iíve missed out a few times over the years but finally landed one.
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Love the back of this 20's french card.
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Last one for the night. 1895 Newsboy.
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That Ogdens Jackson is fantastic. I was happy to get one with a small chunk out of the side.

I haven't seen one of those Siki cards offered for sale for years. Really nice. Mine has a different back:



I guess they were trade cards that could be imprinted by advertisers.
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Thanks Adam, I remember you sharing the image of yours with me a few years ago. It's better than I expected, light chipping but no creases.
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Interesting that the Siki has different backs. I think I've seen that card before cruising overseas Ebay sites, but never made note of the back.
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That Ogdens Jackson is fantastic. I was happy to get one with a small chunk out of the side.

I haven't seen one of those Siki cards offered for sale for years. Really nice. Mine has a different back:



I guess they were trade cards that could be imprinted by advertisers.
Agree the Ogden's Jackson is unbelievable!

The Siki sat in my cart for a few months(I think listed obscurely) while I attempted to research it and never found anything. It was the purple that sealed the deal for me.

Lastly - Adam, you're about to hit 10,000 posts!!!!
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You're lucky I didn't spot it or I'd probably have snagged it just for the back variation.
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Hi everyone. My first post in the Boxing forum, and my first ever boxing cards. Putting together a T3 baseball set brought me here. I'm thrilled to own these beautiful cards, tinged with a bit of "oh no, what have I started?!?"


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Welcome to the Dark Side, young Jedi...

You have the most expensive one already so the rest of the set should be easy sledding. Those are especially nice looking examples.
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You got the 4 most expensive ones, so youíre good to finish easily now. Always love to see these, beautiful cards. I just picked up a Langford myself, the no text back. Yours looks a lot nicer!
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ooohhh, Kopecs...nice. Don't recall the last time I saw a decent group of those offered up.
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ooohhh, Kopecs...nice. Don't recall the last time I saw a decent group of those offered up.
I donít know how much tougher the Kopecs are than the Pets. After ~6 months Iím up to a whopping 4 cards of each back. This will be a very long run I donít complete, but like weíve talked about before the great detail in the images makes them worth it. Beautiful set, I wish they were common.
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Fitzsimmons was a great boxer, but most of his cards are not very appealing. I guess when you do the math He would have been in his mid to late 40ís when the card was released.
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His Newsboy/Campbell/Boston Herald image is decent

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Fitzsimmons was a great boxer, but most of his cards are not very appealing. I guess when you do the math He would have been in his mid to late 40ís when the card was released.
I must concur. His T220 gives an image of his back even... T229 is a beautiful set, this isn't a beautiful card. Neither is Corbett really, Papke is a nice one.
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Welcome to the Dark Side, young Jedi...

You have the most expensive one already so the rest of the set should be easy sledding. Those are especially nice looking examples.
Thanks! When I said "What have I started?" I was referring to boxing cards in general, not the T9s. Because... well, I took a BIG step towards the Dark Side. Boxing cards #1 to 26 came all at once for me. I only posted the big four earlier, but I've just finished scanning them all, here's the rest.

Here is a link to my new T9 album in Flickr if you want to see the high rez scans. My T9 set

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And the rest...

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ďIFĒ we want to see the high resolution scans. They are T9ís, of course we do!
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I just want to say that this thread is awesome! Thanks to everyone for sharing your amazing cards. T218, T220, T226, the E cards, etc., they're all beautiful! The best part about stepping into this world for me has been learning about the turn-of-the-century boxers in the T9 set. I knew I was in trouble when I bid on and won a T218 Jeffries about a week after I got my T9s. I'm going to be taking a close look at the Jeffries barn the next time I'm at Knotts Berry Farm.
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I just want to say that this thread is awesome! Thanks to everyone for sharing your amazing cards. T218, T220, T226, the E cards, etc., they're all beautiful! The best part about stepping into this world for me has been learning about the turn-of-the-century boxers in the T9 set. I knew I was in trouble when I bid on and won a T218 Jeffries about a week after I got my T9s. I'm going to be taking a close look at the Jeffries barn the next time I'm at Knotts Berry Farm.
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Adam, thanks for posting this. Do I remember correctly that you've taken an interest in Jeffries due to his connections with Burbank? I think that I read that in one of your posts.
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Yep. I can practically walk to his old ranch from my office. Some other Jeffries-Burbank related items I have:

7.5" x 9.5" [10" x 12" mount] mounted photo of Jim Jeffries on his farm in Burbank with his pup, with a handwritten copyright of 1906 By Jas. J. Jeffries and Jas. M. Johnson [perhaps the photographer], captioned "The Good Friends" in pencil on the mount. Purportedly from his estate.



An invite to Jim Jeffries' 75th birthday party, sent to the Stewerts, who were close friends. Mr. S was the manager of the boxing arena in Ontario, CA.



Inside of the cover from a 1941 edition of The Knockout showing Jeff on the farm:



A GPC invitation and the only two known tickets from the dinner referenced in the text of the previous item:

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Yep. I can practically walk to his old ranch from my office. Some other Jeffries-Burbank related items I have:
Amazing pieces! Thanks so much for sharing them. It really makes you wonder who was at that dinner on Sept 6 1941.
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I mostly collect T206's but I do have a few cards from other 1900's sets I didn't have any T220's but Greg's thread inspired me to pick one up.

I like the Tolstoi backs and I found this Donovan.
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Amazing pieces! Thanks so much for sharing them. It really makes you wonder who was at that dinner on Sept 6 1941.
At a CSAC dinner, my guess is certainly this guy:

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Some of my pickups this week.

More Silvers, because why not? A T225 I needed for my master set run, and 3 more T227's. Klaus is an upgrade, Coulon I had one of, and Wolgast gives me all 3 of his possible back types. The Gans and Donovan's are upgrades.

3 of the cards are something special. The Coburn may or may not be a proof. It's a blank back, missing his name, and has what seems to be a cutting line at the very top of the card. I've never seen another like it, happy to have it as a centerpiece in my T220 silver collection. The McAuliffe next to it might be a proof; it's missing the silver layer, probably handcut (the edges so worn down it's hard to be certain it originally was handcut) and also blank backed. The McAuliffe is just like the cards on the sheets I discovered a couple months ago. Both are unique items. T220-1 Silver is my favorite set of cards, so unique cards from it are about as cool as cool gets in my book. Very happy to add these to my set.

The Jack Johnson doesn't look special at first, but it's not much more common than the unique cards here. Until very recently, I had this as a probable no print with the Hassan, Series 2 notation, factory 30 back until another collector showed me his Johnson with this back. factory 30 backs are tougher than 649, but this back is not notably difficult with any of the other 50 subjects on which it is found. I strongly suspect, though cannot quite prove, that the green pose Jack Johnson was mostly printed on it's own sheet separate from the other cards after his late addition to the series 1 checklist and rule-breaking continuance into series 2. SGC 4.5's are usually out of my price range, but when very rare items are encountered one can't be picky about keep to the Fair's. I highly doubt the hobby will ever put much value on non-Tolstoi backed T218's, no matter how truly rare (this combination is tougher than Johnson Blue with a Tolstoi, easily), but for me it is a major pick up because of the back. And by far the most I've paid for a T218. This puts me at 621/632 cards to complete the master set, with the most difficult cards crossed off. 1 tough Mecca cards, 8 Tolstoi's, and 2 commons I just haven't grabbed left to complete. Very happy it's owner was kind enough to let it go to a new home where it will hopefully reside for decades in an eventually completed master set.
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