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Old 11-03-2021, 01:36 PM
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Apologies for butting in on the Brooks thread, but I have a question for Baltimore Orioles collectors that probably isn't worth it's own thread.

I am in the process of a long overdue cataloging of my Paul Blair collection and I have several questions I am struggling to resolve. I am still working to see if I can answer some myself, but this one I cannot figure out: TCDB's Paul Blair checklist lists a 1970 Traffic Safety set and a 1971 DMV Safety set. The two sets have identical checklists, but I cannot find any source other than TCDB that lists them separately. To complicate things, the 1971 DMV set has pictures for each card, while the 1970 has no pictures. So, I can't even compare images.

To make things even stranger, on eBay you can only find these cards for the Washington Senators. Not a single Oriole to be found. I suspect that there is only one such set and it is erroneously listed twice on TCDB. Can any of the experts here clear up for me whether there are one or two of these traffic safety sets? Thank you.

Here is the one I have:

Jeff,

I am aware of only the one Orioles set from 1970, while the Senators did a similar set in 1971. You can often find them as uncut sheets.

Hope this helps.
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Old 11-03-2021, 02:00 PM
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Default New Brooks Robinson postcard

Hi guys,

I just picked up what I believe is a new 1966 team issued postcard variation of Brooks, or at least new to me. It's not listed in the postcard books I use for reference.

I believe the postcard is trimmed about 1/4" at the top, but is still a different cropping variation from the other two I have. The back of the postcard is postmarked 1967, but has the characteristics of the 1966 issue.

The two differences include a gap between the V neck of the uniform and the border of the photo and the stripe of the sleeve isn't visible in the bottom right.

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Here's the new variation (bottom left) compared to the two others I have.

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Old 11-03-2021, 02:07 PM
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Jeff,

I am aware of only the one Orioles set from 1970, while the Senators did a similar set in 1971. You can often find them as uncut sheets.

Hope this helps.
Yes, it helps a lot. TCDB is a great resource, but because it is crowdsourced, there are obvious faults. This is the third time I have found a single set with multiple descriptions/entries. The other two I was able to resolve on my own.

While I am sure the numbers will change as I continue to research, I think I have identified 210 unique Paul Blair cards, of which I have 146. Of the balance I don't have, there are close to 30 that I am ambivalent about collecting, like Tristar cut auto cards and Topps Heritage buybacks.
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Old 11-05-2021, 02:43 PM
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Great Bumper Sticker collection!
I was sorting through some things today (looking for something else) and ran across this "Sign Cal Now" bumper sticker from 1992:

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Old 11-06-2021, 02:16 PM
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In February of 2000, the Charlotte O's ballclub held a 20th year reunion of their 1980 Southern League Championship team & I was fortunate that one of the participants (mgr. Jimmy Williams) sent me a program & group picture from the event:


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Old 11-06-2021, 02:55 PM
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In February of 2000, the Charlotte O's ballclub held a 20th reunion of their 1980 Southern League Championship team & I was fortunate that one of the participants (mgr. Jimmy Williams) sent me a program & group picture from the event:
Bill,

Very cool item. I love the way they incorporated the players names into the cover art.

I think we forget how important league championships are to minor league cities and the players that never reach the major leagues.

Thanks for sharing.
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Old 11-08-2021, 07:13 AM
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Bill,

Very cool item. I love the way they incorporated the players names into the cover art.

I think we forget how important league championships are to minor league cities and the players that never reach the major leagues.

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks Alan....

The artwork is indeed very cool & I agree about your point how important these championships really are to these men. Somewhere I have a reunion team ball signed by these guys that night as well.

I look at Cal & think that in only about two months of this photo being taken he would get his 3,000th career hit.

Anyways, I just picked this up on eBay because I thought it was neat (and inexpensive). It's some sort of a 1976 bus ticket from Disneyland to Newport Beach signed by Grant Jackson, Ken Holtzman, Ken Singleton & Brooks.

One of the reasons I thought it was cool was that it included Ken Holtzman, who was only with the Orioles for less than three months & to see anything associated with his time there is unique. I suspect this was signed during the Orioles only trip to Anaheim prior to him (and Grant J.) being dealt to New York (April 19-21):


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Old 11-08-2021, 08:20 AM
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One of the reasons I thought it was cool was that it included Ken Holtzman, who was only with the Orioles for less than three months & to see anything associated with his time there is unique. I suspect this was signed during the Orioles only trip to Anaheim prior to him (and Grant J.) being dealt to New York (April 19-21):

Bill,

You are correct Ken Holtzman items as an Oriole are few. He did somehow make the cut for the 1976 English Lids set and of course a team issued photo.

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Old 11-09-2021, 05:31 PM
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Default 2007 and 2011 Orioles Yearbooks Needed to Complete my Run

Does anyone have a 2007 and 2011 Orioles Yearbook?

Let me know at Charles.strite@yahoo.com
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Old 11-18-2021, 07:23 PM
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Unsure if I posted this photo before, but if not it's a good one...
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Old 11-18-2021, 09:04 PM
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Default James Elder Orioles Postcards

Super excited to get this James Elder postcard in the mail today. Billy Short is the last one I needed to finally complete my Orioles set

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James Elder was from Florida and did a set of around 1400 postcards that he sold individually and as sets. I believe he even offered them to players to use for autograph requests, although I don't have any that have gone through the mail.

Here's an older post that talks a little about James Elder.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=234476

There are 30 or 31 Orioles depending on your definition. One player, Frank Sigafoos, appears in a Baltimore Oriole uniform while they were a minor league team before 1954. It's an interesting mix of players & coaches. Most are them are not household names. In my opinion, the postcards are very well done and can easily be identified by the numbers stamped on back. I've been trying to complete the set of 30 Orioles for many years. Some of the higher numbers don't show up very often.

Here's the checklist of Orioles postcards

#552 Luke Appling
#558 Clint Courtney
#562 Walt Dropo
#575 Fred Hofmann
#576 Stan Hollmig
#578 Dick Hyde
#588 Hobie Landrith
#591 Dick Luebke
#593 Frank McGowan
#598 Al Pilarcik
#604 Art Quirk
#606 Earl Robinson
#610 Carl Scheib
#619 Al Smith
#621 Jim Snyder
#625 George Staller
#632 Willie Tasby
#635 Bobby Thomson
#638 Marv Throneberry
#640 Gus Triandos
#677 Billy Hitchcock
#678 Gene Stephens
#679 Albie Pearson
#680 Del Rice
#681 Paul Richards
#854 Jim Gentile
#1066 Lou Jackson
#1069 Carl Warwick
#1149 Vic Roznovsky
#1297 Billy Short

#1368 Frank Sigafoos (Minor League Orioles)

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Old 11-19-2021, 06:27 PM
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Default Very cool

Very unique, Alan.
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Old 11-20-2021, 05:58 AM
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Alan,

Congrats on the James Elder postcard. Only one more to go...

Also, I've been behind viewing this thread and I really like the variation you picked up on the '66 team issue postcard. I always enjoy seeing variations of Brooks items and just something else to add to the list to acquire.

I haven't been doing much of anything on the collecting front so I have to view others items in their collection; "almost" as fun..
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Old 11-21-2021, 08:33 AM
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Default 1954-55 Oakland Oaks

Good morning guys


Looking for help from any PCL experts with my O's minor league affiliates collection.

I'm currently working on putting together programs from all the Orioles minor league affiliates. I also want to include programs from any co-op teams that the Orioles had working agreements with and/or provided players for during the season.

My question.

In 1954 and 1955, the Orioles didn't have a AAA affiliate. The highest affiliated minor league team with the Orioles were the AA San Antonio Missions. The Oakland Oaks were in the Pacific Coast League, which was classified as Open during 1954-55. The Oaks weren't affiliated with any MLB team. However several players that played for the Oaks during 1954-1955 appeared for the Orioles during the 1954, 1955 and even 1956 seasons. The Oakland Oaks moved to Vancouver in 1956 and became the Mounties (an Orioles affiliate from 1956-1960).

The best example is Duane Pillette, who appeared for the Orioles in 1954 & 1955. He also pitched briefly for the Oaks in 1955. Pillette was traded to the Phillies before the 1956 season. There are plenty of other Oaks players that ended up in Baltimore, but most after 1955.

Does anyone know if the Orioles had any kind of working agreement with Oakland during the 1954 and 55 seasons to provide them players or did teams just purchase contracts directly from the Oaks? My research hasn't confirmed an actual connection with the Orioles. Thanks


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Old 11-21-2021, 05:28 PM
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Default Orioles affiliates

Alan, not my strength but your research equals mine. The Orioles highest affiliate was AA San Antonio. As far as I can tell, the Oaks were last affiliated with the Yankees in the late 30s but not a lot of details on that. Some notable Orioles came from the Oaks.
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Old 11-21-2021, 05:35 PM
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We need to talk Mark into posting something unique daily. his posts for a year straight and the replies/adds by folks often serve me when researching different items. Anyway, I am always looking for odd ball items and like to share. Here are a couple recent pick ups. I am not sure what year the bag is or where it was used (Memorial Stadium or Camden Yards) but it is really cool and was "cheap." I had to have it. I was used to sell Orioles programs. If i ever decide to be a paper boy again, I have my bag. Any insights on the year?

Another item I picked up is this Oriole player disply for Autographed baseballs. Some big named guys here. It still has the order forms attached on the top right. The balls came with a base. I think this is 1975 or so. Anyone of any of the balls?

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Old 11-22-2021, 09:21 AM
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Charlie:

Neat items...I always love the Point of Sale ad pieces. I did get both the Brooks & Belanger signed baseballs back in the day (mail order for me, as they also advertised in Baseball Digest I believe).

Picked up this Elimra (NY) banquet program from January, 1968 which brought in some fairly big names of the day (Csonka, Jersey Joe Walcott, etc.).

My interest was that Cal Ripken Sr.'s name was shown on the cover. 1968 was the only season that Rip Sr. managed the Elmira Pioneers (Class AA) & the club went a respectful 77-63:

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Old 11-22-2021, 08:25 PM
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Very cool, Bill. Some great names on the sign. Huge fan of Csonka, Blair and Ripken. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 11-23-2021, 10:24 AM
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I just saw where former Orioles relief pitcher Doug Jones passed away at age 64. Most of Jones success was with Cleveland, but he did have 22 saves for the Orioles in 1995.

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Old 11-24-2021, 07:00 AM
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I just saw where former Orioles relief pitcher Doug Jones passed away at age 64. Most of Jones success was with Cleveland, but he did have 22 saves for the Orioles in 1995.
Alan:

I was also shocked to hear the sad news about Jones...As you mentioned his only season with the Orioles was in '95 & here is a team signed ball with him on it (of course '95 is most well known as Cal's 2131 season):

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Old 11-24-2021, 08:04 AM
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Bill,

Great looking ball. Some nice HOFers. Oh the days when you could actually read and recognize player's signatures.
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Old 11-24-2021, 01:26 PM
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We need to talk Mark into posting something unique daily. his posts for a year straight and the replies/adds by folks often serve me when researching different items.
Charlie,

I found it difficult to post something Brooks related on a daily basis and also try to post unique, not run of the mill, items. I donít think itís as enjoyable seeing items you see all the time. I tell you what really helped keep me motivated was people posting their items so I could view as well; made it worthwhile.

Why donít you go for something a little easier; next year post a unique Oís item every day for the year (donít miss a day). Start organizing nowÖ.
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Old 11-24-2021, 03:37 PM
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I hope you don't mind if I go a little off topic here because we all love Boog Powell and his name has come up frequently over the life of this thread.

Unfortunately last month Boog's daughter Jennifer was killed when she was struck by a car & Boog's son JW has set up a Go Fund Me page for the financial assistance of her only child, Cole....

I understand from someone that knows Boog well that this has understandably devastated him as Jennifer is now the second child he has lost.

In the spirit of Thanksgiving as we reflect as to what we are grateful for, all I ask is that you consider making a donation in any amount you feel you can.

If interested, you can simply make a donation on your own or perhaps we can collect an amount as a group & make one donation in the name of Net54 or something similar.

Feel free to DM with ideas....

My best wishes to all of you for a Happy Thanksgiving..

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Hi, everyone. A recent find. I saw some chatter a while back on these. The picture pack is from 1971 from Cooperstown, NY. The set I found came with the original envelope that includes the checklist. 9 out of the 12 players featured are HoFs. Our beloved Boog is included. I've had Boog forever but was lucky to find the Brooks with the other 11 players in the "set." I have included a photo of the 12 players and the envelope with the checklist. Enjoy.
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Old 12-01-2021, 06:51 AM
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Charlie: That's a neat picture pack. I was in Cooperstown back in September & that the F.R. Woods shop is still operational.

Was saddened to learn yesterday that former Chicago White Sox ace & Cy Young Award winner Lamarr Hoyt had passed away.

It reminded me back to 1983 & more specifically Game 1 of the ALCS that year (Hoyt pitched the Sox to a complete game victory). A college buddy of mine & myself made the trip down & scalped tickets to get in. One of the memories I have was that we were standing out in front of the stadium near the ticket windows and a town car pulls in near us and out walks Orioles owner Edward Bennett Williams & Larry King and I had EBW sign my program.

A few years back I was able to obtain one of the carbon copies of the Sox lineup card that afternoon:


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