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Old 06-22-2019, 12:39 PM
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Like PWCC, I have suspected shill bidding on their auctions for quite some time. Insane prices for raw cards.
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Old 06-22-2019, 12:59 PM
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Default evidence?

This could get interesting.... In general, I am all for airing shilling concerns but I know Greg Morris has a good reputation with many on this board so it would be nice to have something more definite to work with than your mere accusation- like some evidence?
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Old 06-22-2019, 01:38 PM
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Like PWCC, I have suspected shill bidding on their auctions for quite some time. Insane prices for raw cards.
He is an advertiser but from everything I know about Greg Morris he would never shill bid. Could someone consign and somehow shill without his knowledge, of course. But I would like to see any evidence of shill bidding. He gets great prices because, from everything I have ever seen, he is honest.
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Old 06-22-2019, 01:45 PM
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I think at the least 661fish needs to put his full name under his post, no?

I have never bought from Greg Morris, and I really don’t know much about them. But - 661fish, your post takes balls (or no brains) and if you are going to publicly accuse someone of shill bidding, you need to put your full name under the post per the rules.

And since I effectively called you stupid, here is my full name (nice to meet you)

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Old 06-22-2019, 01:47 PM
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I think at the least 661fish needs to put his full name under his post, no?

I have never bought from Greg Morris, and I really don’t know much about them. But - 661fish, your post takes balls (or no brains) and if you are going to publicly accuse someone of shill bidding, you need to put your full name under the post per the rules.

And since I effectively called you stupid, here is my full name (nice to meet you)

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His name IS under his user ID.
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Old 06-22-2019, 01:52 PM
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Only part of his name is, unless Fi.tze is a normal last name.

Look, bottom line is that a rule of this board is to give your name if you make a disparaging comment. Mr. Fi.tze made such a comment and thus needs to put his name (or confirm that his last name has a period for the third letter).

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Old 06-22-2019, 01:55 PM
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I had fair results using him. I did not have any of the high bidders on his other consignments bid on my cards. That being said, I dont believe I have ever seen the cards relisted by GM or sold raw by any one else
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Only part of his name is, unless Fi.tze is a normal last name.

Look, bottom line is a rule if this board is to give your name if you make a disparaging comment. Mr. Fi.tze made such a comment and thus needs to put his name (or confirm that his last name has a period for the third letter).
Some people add dots, commas, or other things to their name so the bots don't gather their data. Not sure if it works but that is why it is done.

I will say Mr Morris has accurately graded raw cards. The other part is a matter of opinion on what you call shill bidding.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:25 AM
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He is an advertiser but from everything I know about Greg Morris he would never shill bid. Could someone consign and somehow shill without his knowledge, of course. But I would like to see any evidence of shill bidding. He gets great prices because, from everything I have ever seen, he is honest.
I am honest and my prices suck...lol (at least for me....I am sure for buyers that they are great).

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I have bought and consigned with Greg Morris. Happy on all business transacted with them.

Wondering what Se.an Fi.tze's basis is for suspecting shill bidding besides what he deems "insane prices for raw cards". Personally I do not think it is fair to make a post like this absent evidence. Seems irresponsible and reckless as it could harm a reputation that a company worked hard to get.

Someone being successful really should not be a justification to make a post of this nature.
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I have never suspected Greg Morris Auctions of shilling. Rather, I attribute the performance of higher grade raw cards to those who speculate that a given raw card could be an 8, 9, or whatever. Because all high grade raw cards just have to be destined for plastic slabs.

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Like PWCC, I have suspected shill bidding on their auctions for quite some time. Insane prices for raw cards.
I suspect you are a serial killer. No evidence, just a suspicion.
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I have bought many cards from Greg Morris and have never suspected shill bidding. Their raw grading usually comes back from PSA as they described. I continue to buy from Greg Morris as well.


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Old 06-24-2019, 07:37 AM
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I was introduced to Greg Morris from the banner on this board and have bought many cards from him and every single time I have left him the highest feedback. Like others have said, he allows you to bid on auctions for a week, combines shipping and his shipping costs are fantastic, particularly for us up in Canada. Accusations without evidence is dangerous and the bar should be set high and Peter Spaeth is an excellent example of providing evidence. I was so impressed with everyone's response I just wanted to add my support to Greg. To Sean I just want to say thank you for the apology. To me it shows integrity.

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My 2 cents.
If the original post (#1) was made without adequate basis, you should revise it to reflect this fact.
I acknowledge that many will read the posts down to #25, but some may not.
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My 2 cents.
If the original post (#1) was made without adequate basis, you should revise it to reflect this fact.
I acknowledge that many will read the posts down to #25, but some may not.
I agree. This is fd up if completely unfounded with no evidence. His name in subject line? Ufta..
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