At least 14 Florida Marlins test + covid

[1952boyntoncollector]

Right people that want to work just dont let them work, just stop the season and have all the staff and clubhouse and video departments have no job...even though they want to work..

i think MLB worried Marlins were going to win World Series so someone in clubhouse took care of things

[packs]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Right people that want to work just dont let them work, just stop the season and have all the staff and clubhouse and video departments have no job...even though they want to work..

i think MLB worried Marlins were going to win World Series so someone in clubhouse took care of things

How does what you want come into play when you're talking about a virus you have no control over. It's not like everyone returned to run concession stands or parking. What is the difference?

[rjackson44]

Hi steve this is crazy end the season

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

How does what you want come into play when you're talking about a virus you have no control over. It's not like everyone returned to run concession stands or parking. What is the difference?

Not what i want...its what THEY want, free country, if the government doesnt shut it down, restaurants are still open, so are department stores.....people work in many places in which they come home to high density housing..

if they want to play play so bi it..plus there are lot more jobs that just concession and parking at risk......i think they will need another breakout before contemplate another season

and to address another posters point, the players are most likely asymptomatic..

its not going to be a 'real' championship....all hands on deck! A lot of minor league players who never would of had a chance to play MLB are getting that chance this year....you will see years from now a lot of MLB players who only played 98% or more of their MLB career in 2020.

Florida covid positivity rate is at 11% right now that last few days..if in a week or so its in single digits....it would be getting close to 5% which most experts agree you can have an open economy at that point....

[packs]

Why is it important to note they're asymptomatic? That has nothing to do with your ability to spread the virus to someone who isn't. I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

Why is it important to note they're asymptomatic? That has nothing to do with your ability to spread the virus to someone who isn't. I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.

The point was that they didnt know they were sick the poster seems to think that the players who were sick should of let people know, my point is they probably didnt know they were sick ..

[packs]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

The point was that they didnt know they were sick the poster seems to think that the players who were sick should of let people know, my point is they probably didnt know they were sick ..

That's not true though. Three Marlins tested positive before Sunday's game and the team as a whole still decided to play, which resulted in another 11 tests.

The Marlins did not consult the Phillies about their decision.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

That's not true though. Three Marlins tested positive before Sunday's game and the team as a whole still decided to play, which resulted in another 11 tests.

The Marlins did not consult the Phillies about their decision.

Right we already knew about those 3., we are now talking about the ones that were not removed from playing yesterday...they may not have been symptomatic is the point..

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by packs

Why is it important to note they're asymptomatic? That has nothing to do with your ability to spread the virus to someone who isn't. I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.

If this percentage of their roster has it, and was asymptomatic, a heck of a lot more of MLB may have it and are asymptomatic. At what point do we let them play? When not a single person tests positive after then how many days?

Try to have a post you dont edit, I did see one this thread! One post at a time my friend.

[D. Bergin]

To think Clint Frazier was called a sheep for wearing a mask during game play.

He was rewarded by being sent back down to the training facility after two games and no game play.

I used to think he was a bit of a knucklehead, but it turns out he's the smartest player on that team.

[KMayUSA6060]

MLB has been playing without the Marlins for the majority of the time since basically 2004. Just continue the season.

They expanded the rosters for a reason. Many flu outbreaks have occurred over the years and the MLB didn't shut the season down. Those who didn't want to "risk" getting COVID-19 had the option to opt out. Those who were ok with the "risk" are playing. So Play Ball.

[Rhotchkiss]

I don't know (and will not opine on) whether baseball, or any other sport, should be played this year. But I do know this thread has the making of a massive train wreck. The discussion will 1000% devolve into fighting and politics.

I am claiming "I told you so now". Boy will this be a good read (unfortunately).

[packs]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

If this percentage of their roster has it, and was asymptomatic, a heck of a lot more of MLB may have it and are asymptomatic. At what point do we let them play? When not a single person tests positive after then how many days?

Try to have a post you dont edit, I did see one this thread! One post at a time my friend.

Being asymptomatic does not mean you can't transmit the virus to someone who doesn't have it. You will test positive for the virus when you're asymptomatic. I really don't know what you're suggesting when you say let asymptomatic players cohabitate with people who don't have the virus at all.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by packs

Being asymptomatic does not mean you can't transmit the virus to someone who doesn't have it. You will test positive for the virus when you're asymptomatic. I really don't know what you're suggesting when you say let asymptomatic players cohabitate with people who don't have the virus at all.

Now you are lying. I didnt say let them play once theyve been tested. I said probably many more havent been tested that are asymptomatic. Please stop the insinuations as you will have to edit even more of your posts.

In peoples humble opinion, How long do we keep mlb cancelled? Until not a single player test positive for how many days? What if MLB players are immune to these novel virus symptoms, but older coaches and owners and ones with comorbidities are?

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[Snapolit1]

Whole season just seems forced and unnecessary. And that was my opinion a month ago. Doesn’t feel like a real season at all. And I think it sends a
Message to kids in little league, college ball, etc. that athletes don’t need to follow the rules that are being articulated. Players not even following the safety protocols their union fought for. Went to a little league game last week and hardly a mask in view
Anywhere.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Whole season just seems forced and unnecessary. And that was my opinion a month ago. Doesn’t feel like a real season at all. And I think it sends a
Message to kids in little league, college ball, etc. that athletes don’t need to follow the rules that are being articulated. Players not even following the safety protocols their union fought for. Went to a little league game last week and hardly a mask in view
Anywhere.

The little league and travel team games around here have been going for a while, they started while the MLB was still fighting with itself. No masks anywhere around then or now.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

The little league and travel team games around here have been going for a while, they started while the MLB was still fighting with itself. No masks anywhere around then or now.

Finally, a ray of sanity. Just curious though. Where is "around here"?

[insidethewrapper]

Same here, little league etc are playing but the Major Leagues need to shut down ? I thought this is why the rosters were expanded ! If players got sick from the virus the additional players would step in from their pratice facilities. If you test positive leave the team for 14 days and get a negative test before you return and let the rest of the players play. Again the players are not wearing masks in the dugout and not practicing social distancing.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by tschock

Finally, a ray of sanity. Just curious though. Where is "around here"?

I'm in Cleveland, and I don't consider groups of people getting together like this to be particularly smart.

[buymycards]

Originally Posted by tschock

Finally, a ray of sanity. Just curious though. Where is "around here"?

I have 4 grandsons playing little league. Some of the kids wear masks, others don't. Some of the spectators wear masks, some don't. One of the kids team was postponed for 2 weeks because a family member tested positive. People seem to be social distancing, for the most part. When the season started, the bleachers were off limits and the kids couldn't use the dugouts, but now that has changed. The home plate umpire calls the balls and strikes from behind the pitcher to limit his exposure to a bunch of kids.

I live in a rural area of Wisconsin, and most people are not taking the virus seriously.

[mr2686]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

And I think it sends a
Message to kids in little league, college ball, etc. that athletes don’t need to follow the rules that are being articulated.

I think that ship sailed long ago. LOL

[Shoeless Moe]

I've been coaching little league kids since end of May ZERO problems.

In Illinois Sunday 1 Covid death - a 90 year old man. No offense but 90!!!! Please.

Shut the world down, because someone dies from a disease.

PATHETIC!

Play ball!

Shut everything down until every person on Earth is safe. What a joke!

Oh no a few healthy 20 years olds tested Positive oh no Shut the season down. Everyone back to their basements.

IDIOTS!!!

[Fred]

2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcmwPYCUysw

This whole year is pointless... feel free to pee in my Cheerios if you're offended by that.

What? Nobody enjoys it when the broadcast crew raises the volume on the cheering when the home team hits one over the fence or someone makes a great play?

That was the beauty of baseball - over a long season, things usually "even out" so to speak. IF it lasts 60 games, it'll be interesting to see how it all ends... I'd like nothing more than watching the San Francisco Giants battling it out with the the Kansas City Royals for the WS title.

[Snapolit1]

Another adult who thinks kids playing little league is the most important thing in the universe. A few in my family. As if you have any freakin idea if some kid in the leagues' 80 year old grand mother died from something she got at a family reunion from someone who got it from her grandson who got it at a little league game.

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I've been coaching little league kids since end of May ZERO problems.

In Illinois Sunday 1 Covid death - a 90 year old man. No offense but 90!!!! Please.

Shut the world down, because someone dies from a disease.

PATHETIC!

Play ball!

Shut everything down until every person on Earth is safe. What a joke!

Oh no a few healthy 20 years olds tested Positive oh no Shut the season down. Everyone back to their basements.

IDIOTS!!!

[steve B]

Lucky you

Massachusetts is running around 2-300 new cases a day, and 10-20 deaths. We were about half that a month ago.

The people I know in the medical field also say that just because you don't die doesn't mean you aren't messed up, sometimes permanently.

By all means though, keep on not taking it seriously.

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I've been coaching little league kids since end of May ZERO problems.

In Illinois Sunday 1 Covid death - a 90 year old man. No offense but 90!!!! Please.

Shut the world down, because someone dies from a disease.

PATHETIC!

Play ball!

Shut everything down until every person on Earth is safe. What a joke!

Oh no a few healthy 20 years olds tested Positive oh no Shut the season down. Everyone back to their basements.

IDIOTS!!!

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Not what i want...its what THEY want, free country, if the government doesnt shut it down, restaurants are still open, so are department stores.....people work in many places in which they come home to high density housing..

if they want to play play so bi it..plus there are lot more jobs that just concession and parking at risk......i think they will need another breakout before contemplate another season

and to address another posters point, the players are most likely asymptomatic..

its not going to be a 'real' championship....all hands on deck! A lot of minor league players who never would of had a chance to play MLB are getting that chance this year....you will see years from now a lot of MLB players who only played 98% or more of their MLB career in 2020.

Florida covid positivity rate is at 11% right now that last few days..if in a week or so its in single digits....it would be getting close to 5% which most experts agree you can have an open economy at that point....

It’s not a free country, Jake. There are laws to restrict freedoms for the public good. The public good would be served if baseball was shut down before these teams travel around the country infecting as they go.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

It’s not a free country, Jake. There are laws to restrict freedoms for the public good. The public good would be served if baseball was shut down before these teams travel around the country infecting as they go.

so do many other groups of people but at least in baseball they are getting tests almost daily and have a bunch of money tied into keeping people safe..at least a lot better than the other groups of people that would be on the similar flights as them or people using public transportation.

the risks are very low.....shutting down things can also be deemed against the public good and the public good can be argued to being better served as not shutting things down.....its not all in a vacuum.

They allow group social protesting right..thats considered much bigger than the pandemic (according to health experts on CNN at least) ..too me if there are other things more important than the pandemic than dont really need to get into the public good argument about some ballplayers..

[iwantitiwinit]

If the rule were simply wear masks when u are away from home regardless of your occupation things would be different. Until that is implemented I doubt very seriously that any endeavor to revert to "normalcy" will succeed. Just wear a mask!!

[JollyElm]

Were the season to continue, I would simply have my catcher repeatedly cough and sneeze and blow his nose. No batter would want to get anywhere near the plate, and thus...

5.04 (b) (6.02) The Batter’s Box
(3) If the batter refuses to take his position in the batter’s box during his time at bat, the umpire shall call a strike on the batter. The ball is dead, and no runners may advance. After the penalty, the batter may take his proper position and the regular ball and strike count shall continue. If the batter does not take his proper position before three strikes have been called, the batter shall be declared out.

You'd be able to toss a perfect game without ever throwing a single pitch.

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

so do many other groups of people but at least in baseball they are getting tests almost daily and have a bunch of money tied into keeping people safe..at least a lot better than the other groups of people that would be on the similar flights as them or people using public transportation.

the risks are very low.....shutting down things can also be deemed against the public good and the public good can be argued to being better served as not shutting things down.....its not all in a vacuum.

They allow group social protesting right..thats considered much bigger than the pandemic (according to health experts on CNN at least) ..too me if there are other things more important than the pandemic than dont really need to get into the public good argument about some ballplayers..

Jake-I would probably agree with you if players were required to wear face coverings during the game (at all times). It would set a good example for people watching the games that they should do it too thereby serving as an additional public good (beyond entertainment).

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Jake-I would probably agree with you if players were required to wear face coverings during the game (at all times). It would set a good example for people watching the games that they should do it too thereby serving as an additional public good (beyond entertainment).

Interesting to note ZERO Phillies tested positive for the virus, assume umpires as well thus far even though on the field with marlins for several hours and pre and post game stuff, if something comes out later i stand corrected..

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by oldjudge View Post
It’s not a free country, Jake. There are laws to restrict freedoms for the public good. The public good would be served if baseball was shut down before these teams travel around the country infecting as they go.

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

so do many other groups of people but at least in baseball they are getting tests almost daily and have a bunch of money tied into keeping people safe..at least a lot better than the other groups of people that would be on the similar flights as them or people using public transportation.

the risks are very low.....shutting down things can also be deemed against the public good and the public good can be argued to being better served as not shutting things down.....its not all in a vacuum.

They allow group social protesting right..thats considered much bigger than the pandemic (according to health experts on CNN at least) ..too me if there are other things more important than the pandemic than dont really need to get into the public good argument about some ballplayers..

I stand by my comments from years ago that seemed to age a lot better than some others posters comments on this thread