1951 Mantle - Guess the grade

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ASF123

It’s grade deflation, pure and simple. PSA’s incentive is to keep “tightening” standards to keep the jackpot prices at the upper end. It’s a pure gatekeeping function that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual condition of a particular card.

Any purported grading “scale” that gives this card 25% of the possible points is completely useless in terms of actually providing information on the relative quality of the card.

Maybe but that cuts the other way too, if they are too tight why the hell spend astronomical sums submitting to them just to get royally screwed? At SOME point if their grades are absurd the money is better spent on a competitor.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe but that cuts the other way too, if they are too tight why the hell spend astronomical sums submitting to them just to get royally screwed? At SOME point if their grades are absurd the money is better spent on a competitor.

Yes but next time the same exact card gets submitted it could get a 5. I got in on one of the group subs and everything came back graded a 8, from the gem mint cards to the one with the very noticeable crease. PSA is a joke at best but hey they bring the most cash so very few care how horrible they perform their job.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Yes but next time the same exact card gets submitted it could get a 5. I got in on one of the group subs and everything came back graded a 8, from the gem mint cards to the one with the very noticeable crease. PSA is a joke at best but hey they bring the most cash so very few care how horrible they perform their job.

what ben said! Beautiful mantle BTW!

[ASF123]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe but that cuts the other way too, if they are too tight why the hell spend astronomical sums submitting to them just to get royally screwed? At SOME point if their grades are absurd the money is better spent on a competitor.

A lot of observers have been waiting in vain for a long time for logical consequences to apply to PSA’s business practices. But the only important thing seems to be to perpetuate the jackpot prices. That seems to be sufficient to keep demand up.

[maniac_73]

Im wondering if its new graders who are out to prove something. You have to think there is a significant amount of new employees who have just started and dont want to make a mistake of overgrading

[Johnny630]

Submitting to PSA is what I equate now to Gambling, it’s an addiction that PSA is Capitalizing on. I can’t blame them. People are passionate about cards and money. . Let’s face it some people in this hobby are addicted to that higher grade to gain more money on said card, in the back of their mind, somewhat like the gambler they always think they can get a higher better grade, crack and resubmit try again. Like the guy pouring money into that slot machine day after day waiting for that hit.

PSA could charge any price they want, honestly they could, people would still be waiting 100’s deep in line for their roll of the dice entombing their card with they monetary number of thy slab.

[Casey2296]

Great card Howard, congrats to both you and the seller, grade notwithstanding which seems crazy to me, if you don't sell it at the National or buy it yourself I would be interested in buying it at a fair price.

[Neal]

Very nice

[judgebuck]

Very nice. I had it at a 4.