Guess the PSA Grade! 1948 Leaf Paige new to hobby!

[vthobby]

Winner will be the person who gets the PSA grade EXACT. Don't be afraid to guess that it might not even get graded, you can add qualifiers, or give me a straight grade guess. Plenty of combos. Maybe it gets a qualifier, maybe it does not get slabbed, maybe its a straight grade?

Winner will receive a mix of 4 autographed sports (could be any sport) index cards from my vast collection. My choice.

You can still vote up until I post a pic of the card out of the PSA Box hopefully Wednesday afternoon! Rember, only 1 winner and it's the 1st that guesses so if you see it up on the list, guess somethig else!

Ties go to the person who guessed only once and was the 1st one to get his or her Grade guess in! In other words, only 1 winner! Good luck! Thanks! Mike

PS Small hints, the card has the eye appeal of a STRONG 8 minus the tape issue! Appears to have been pulled from a pack and taped in a book or something. You can still guess "fake or counterfeit" if you'd like. Since you can't measure the card from the photo I should say that it measured DEAD on to the correct specs for 1948-49 Leaf cards, Not bigger, Not a mm shorter on all sides. It also was with some other 1948 Leaf "taped" cards.

PS 2 : Card is at PSA and I did not get a scan of the back! Ugh. I can tell you the back is CLEAN and about maybe 60/40 or even 70/30 off center but beautiful! Also, the small speck on the left side of card (middle) is in the top loader and is a speck of dust or something. I pulled it out before sending the card.

PS 3: This card was an original owner card recently found. I had it next. The card is UNTOUCHED, UNTAMPERED, UNALTERED with FULL Borders. It could still have a quaifier I guess like ST or MK but it should not come back Altered. I believe they would assume the original "taper" did this non maliciously. I have sent well over a thousand cards to PSA over the years. I am confident (could be wrong but thinking I won't be) It is not altered. Very nice but not altered!

Thanks! Mike

[Tyruscobb]

Authentic but altered

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb

Authentic but altered

Thanks for being the first to guess!

Peace, Mike

PS Since you can't measure the card from the photo I should say that it measured DEAD on to the correct specs for 1948-49 Leaf cards, Not bigger, Not a mm shorter on all sides. It also was with some other 1948 Leaf "taped" cards.

[Seven]

I'm very bad at Guessing grades, I'm going to go with a 2, because of the tape.

[frankbmd]

3 st

[Casey2296]

Back scan?

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Back scan?

Card is at PSA and I did not get a scan of the back! Ugh. I can tell you the back is CLEAN and about maybe 60/40 or even 70/30 off center but beautiful!

Thanks! Mike

[GeoPoto]

4

[Belfast1933]

I’ll take 2.5

[Fred]

2.5 -scartch the 2.5, was a minute late on that one, sheesh...

will go with 7 (MK)

[BabyRuth]

2 st

[3-2-count]

PSA 1.5

And a darn nice one at that!

[deeg23]

I’ll guess PSA 4 ST... Thanks Mike!

[swarmee]

6(ST) since my first guess was already taken.

[Sinker Slider]

Psa 1.

[AGuinness]

Did you submit it through PWCC? If so, I say it comes back without the tape residue, a micro-cut smaller and in a PSA 9 holder. Ha!

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by AGuinness

Did you submit it through PWCC? If so, I say it comes back without the tape residue, a micro-cut smaller and in a PSA 9 holder. Ha!

I submit all my cards directly.

Thanks! Mike

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Assuming you didn't request "no qualifier?"

Is it actual tape or just residue?

[AGuinness]

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

I submit all my cards directly.

Thanks! Mike

It's generous for you to have the contest, thanks! My real guess was already taken - but it's a great card for whatever grade it ends up with (even if it's not slabbed).

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Assuming you didn't request "no qualifier?"

Is it actual tape or just residue?

I sent it "as is", I did request no qualifiers but they sometimes ignore that. It appears that the top layer of glossy tape has fallen off. It is tape residue only. Looks to be embedded into the card over the years.

Thanks Scott.

[timber63401]

5 st

[bigfish]

7st

[oldeboo]

PSA 6 with no qualifiers as PSA tends to be all over the place

[Throttlesteer]

Vg 3 (st)

[pokerplyr80]

4 mk

[111gecko]

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb

Authentic but altered

It will be this.

[Ricky]

3 mk

[RL]

3.5

[hockeyhockey]

3.5

[vthobby]

This card was an original owner card recently found. I had it next. The card is UNTOUCHED, UNTAMPERED, UNALTERED with FULL Borders. It could still have a quaifier I guees like ST or MK but it should not come back Altered. I believe they would assume the original "taper" did this non maliciously. I have sent well over a thousand cards to PSA over the years. It is not altered. Very nice but not altered!

Peace, Mike

[GasHouseGang]

I'll say 3.5 ST, assuming they ignore the "no qualifier" request.

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

I'll say 3.5 ST, assuming they ignore the "no qualifier" request.

I always love the MC or the OC qualifiers when you ask for "No Qualifiers". I mean.......its pretty obvious that its not centered. Why would you need to put that? lol

Mike

[PhillyFan1883]

Psa 1

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by aguinness

did you submit it through pwcc? If so, i say it comes back without the tape residue, a micro-cut smaller and in a psa 9 holder. Ha!

winner!

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

winner!

Now Now.... "winner" is not a guess!

Mike

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by 111gecko

It will be this.

I am with my colleagues here.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I think 2.5 is still available.

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I am with my colleagues here.

Let me re-iterate:

This card was an original owner card recently found. I got it next. The card is UNTOUCHED, UNTAMPERED, UNALTERED with FULL Borders.

Feel free to guess what you like but this card has not been altered in any way!

Peace, Mike

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

Let me re-iterate:

This card was an original owner card recently found. I got it next. The card is UNTOUCHED, UNTAMPERED, UNALTERED with FULL Borders.

Feel free to guess what you like but this card has not been altered in any way!

Peace, Mike

Going with PSA 1 but a card with great eye appeal.

[vthobby]

I found an old thread that discussed "tape stains" and it seemed the general consensus was that it was ultra rare and possibly unheard of to get a 3. Usually an Authentic 1 or higher depending on eye appeal. If they used qualifiers maybe it could go a bit higher? Not sure.

Thanks for all the guesses. Not sure if any grades are left but I'm sure there are some combos that have not been guessed! Good luck!

Peace, Mike

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

Card is at PSA and I did not get a scan of the back! Ugh. I can tell you the back is CLEAN and about maybe 60/40 or even 70/30 off center but beautiful!

Thanks! Mike

Hey Mike

My guess is WHATEVER

Before PSA sends it back to you, tell them to label the flip.....1949. Or else you will have a card that is mis-dated.

These LEAF cards were issued in the Spring of 1949 (1st Series). Paige was in the 2nd Series which was issued in the Summer of 1949.

I know this for a fact, since I collected these cards in my youth.

But, you don't need to take my word for this....JUST READ PAIGE's BIO, it confirms what I am telling you.

Good Luck.


1949 LEAF...... issued Summer of 1949
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TED Z

T206 Reference
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[vthobby]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hey Mike

My guess is WHATEVER

Before PSA sends it back to you, tell them to label the flip.....1949. Or else you will have a card that is mis-dated.

These LEAF cards were issued in the Spring of 1949 (1st Series). Paige was in the 2nd Series which was issued in the Summer of 1949.

I know this for a fact, since I collected these cards in my youth.

But, you don't need to take my word for this....JUST READ PAIGE's BIO, it confirms what I am telling you.

Good Luck.


1949 LEAF...... issued Summer of 1949
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TED Z

T206 Reference
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Thanks Ted, I've always enjoyed reading about your experiences and exploits! I started opening wax in 1976 so a bit after you did! I did put 1948-49 on the form but I think they only have 1948 on the flips, I'll try. I also heard a crazy rumor that the Paige was only issued in Canada? Is there any validity to that? Thanks in advance! Mike

[Zact]

With the tape the highest is going to be a psa 2.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

Thanks Ted, I've always enjoyed reading about your experiences and exploits! I started opening wax in 1976 so a bit after you did! I did put 1948-49 on the form but I think they only have 1948 on the flips, I'll try. I also heard a crazy rumor that the Paige was only issued in Canada? Is there any validity to that? Thanks in advance! Mike

Mike

The 2nd (or Short-Print) series (49 cards) was issued only in the Boston area, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio and possibly the St Louis area.

That is a "crazy rumor"....I never heard anything about any of these cards issued only in Canada.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[steve_a]

Whenever I am lucky enough to be the second owner of an SP Leaf, it seems that they come from the upper midwest. I need to spend more time there...

My guess is also AA

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Mike

The 2nd (or Short-Print) series (49 cards) was issued only in the Boston area, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio and possibly the St Louis area.

That is a "crazy rumor"....I never heard anything about any of these cards issued only in Canada.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Thanks Ted as always, so interesting! This one came from New England!

Thanks! Mike

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by steve_a

Whenever I am lucky enough to be the second owner of an SP Leaf, it seems that they come from the upper midwest. I need to spend more time there...

My guess is also AA

Hi Steve

You don't have to travel any further than your greater Boston area. There has been several finds of 1949 LEAF SP cards in your area.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[BearBailey]

My guess is authentic, since you requested no qualifiers.

[sycks22]

Authentic

[Luke]

Auth Altered