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Old 05-28-2021, 06:46 AM
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Default Crappy hitters!

How can there be so many crappy hitters in the Majors today. You got guys hitting 160, 170, 180, Playing as starters every day. You mean to tell me that there are no better hitters in the minors. Most of these guys swing at pitches so far out of the strike zone that I can't believe it. Do they all need glasses or better training? It's sad to watch.
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Old 05-28-2021, 11:26 AM
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Frank, you shouldn't be picking on the Tiger's line up like that!

Yes I am a Tiger fan. This is really tough to watch.
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Old 05-28-2021, 01:23 PM
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So far in 2021, the majors are on a pace for lowest league batting avg for a year in the game's history (.236) and most strikeouts per game in history.

Granted run production is far from at its worst (since hitters walk and hit homers more often), but still. Not pretty.
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Old 05-28-2021, 03:45 PM
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How can there be so many crappy hitters in the Majors today. You got guys hitting 160, 170, 180, Playing as starters every day. You mean to tell me that there are no better hitters in the minors. Most of these guys swing at pitches so far out of the strike zone that I can't believe it. Do they all need glasses or better training? It's sad to watch.
the Game has become hyper specialized, resulting in a terrible offensive product. 98,99 MPH fastballs with devastating breaking pitches are now the norm. Most guys are putting everything into every pitch because most guys, nowadays, aren't going the distance. Pitchers are throwing harder and not working as deep into games which means hitters have less of a chance to pick up and get used to a guy.

3 true outcomes has taken over the game as well. Homeruns, strikeout and walks are the only things that matter. Slap hitters don't exist anymore, they've been deemed obsolete. I hate the onfield product, it's borderline unbearable and games are longer because of it. And more expensive to boot! Can't take a family to an afternoon game nowadays unless you have hundreds of dollars to spend!
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And more expensive to boot! Can't take a family to an afternoon game nowadays unless you have hundreds of dollars to spend!
Yet MLB thought rural America would be okay giving up their MiLB teams and still be interested in their MLB product.

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Old 05-29-2021, 03:23 AM
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My bad. I thought this was a thread devoted to the 2021 Milwaukee Brewers.

My team, the team I have followed passionately since 1978, 50 games into the 2021 season, nearly 1/3 of the season played, is batting .209. The team's collective OPS+ is 80, meaning their .649 OPS is 20% below National League average.

To put this in perspective: the Brewers were born in 1970, after moving from Seattle, where the Pilots were an expansion team in 1969.

This is the 53rd season of Milwaukee Brewer baseball. The Brewers have historically had some real powerhouse offenses, and haven't been able to develop starting pitchers worth a damn. Now, we have two of the best starting pitchers in baseball in Brandon Woodruff and Corbin Burnes, and can't hit worth a lick.

That .649 OPS is the third worst in team history.

2021 .649 OPS, NL average .701 (-0.52) 80 OPS+
1971 .633 OPS, AL average .681 (-0.48) 81 OPS+
1972 .629 OPS, AL average .649 (-0.20) 90 OPS+

Relative to league average, however, this is the worst offense in the 53 year history of the Milwaukee Brewers.

But I remain hopeful!
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Emphasis on Slugging % + pitcher's doctoring baseballs = dismal BA.

Spin Rate science has turned decent pitcher's to unhittable pitcher's. Rosin and sunscreen (technically illegal but accepted) make an almost super glue tackiness. I'd bet 99% of pitcher's in mlb are using something besides rosin to increase grip which increase spin Rate.
Players are vocal about it, but MLB has basically said 2021 will be an investigative season. Use the doctoring as bargaining chips with the players union. Just like the DH
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