What a caramel card must look like to an acid head

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Posted By: tbob

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=86841&item=5148342394&rd=1

Groovy baby!!!!

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Posted By: DD

Looks like this caramel card spent too much time in the sum with the caramel.

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Posted By: soumynonna

...at at the risk of being double visionary

I recall the yellow cotton dress
Foaming like a wave
On the ground around your knees
The birds, like tender babies in your hands
And the old men playing checkers by the trees

MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark
All the sweet, green icing flowing down
Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it
'Cause it took so long to bake it
And I'll never have that recipe again
Oh, no!

edited to add a totally unrelated card image
(really it's just to slow down Leon's download)

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Posted By: hankron

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Posted By: ImaUncleSamhowdoyado

..I highly recommend the newly remastered Grateful Dead Movie in that newfangled DVD format.

vroooommm,,,,vroooommm

........


edited for obligatory card scan

and of course to slow down Leon and to test the Moderators patience

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Posted By: Scott Elkins

When I first saw it, I thought it was all the pain medication I am on!

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Posted By: JimB

... in a rock and roll band.
Nice Hornsby.

JimB

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Posted By: ImaUncleSamhowdoyado

...the Untied States Blues.



with appropriate appologies to the board.

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Posted By: Kevin O

If God dropped acid, would he see people? -- Steven Wright

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

Id sure would like to own this card in a GAI (or equivalent) Authentic holder. I wonder if it is real. Any bets?

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Posted By: Ben

Gil- it ain't real. Even if it was real, it would still be the most horrendous looking card I could ever imagine. I think there have been a few reasonably priced low grade e93 cobbs offered up in BST and on ebay lately, so you shouldnt have much trouble finding an authentic one.

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Posted By: petecld

Not a chance on earth it is real.

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Posted By: JimB

wave it wide and high.

Who knows what that card is. It may be real (or not), but it certainly is not worth anything now.
JimB

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

My interest is not in a low grade Cobb card. I actually do not care which player is on that card. I think that card is a fine example of ......... (Im not sure what). But come on now. Cards ripped in half which are missing lots of paper are common. How often do you see this damage? I would not know how to create this artificially (if the card really looks that way).

Of course I wouldn't pay much for it, but as a curiousity, sure.

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Posted By: dennis

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=86848&item=5148342452&rd=1 check out the "indian gum" lefty grove fake card from the same seller. there are a few sellers on ebay that specialize in beat up fake pre-war cards.this guy being 1. if he's selling it and it's pre-war it ain't real.

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

Yes Dennis, you are right. Thank you. Gil

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Posted By: Josh K.

For someone who is new at this, what is the give away that the Grove is a fake - is it the bleach white borders or something else?

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Posted By: Julie

...and why did you zap my post saying so?

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

Yes Josh - there are plenty of indicators, but with the borders and back so white, there is no reason to look further.

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Posted By: Scott

You can still learn enough from studying ebay scans to i.d. some of the more obvious fakes, like this one. If you want to learn about '34 Goudeys, do a search on ebay and look at the ones being offered by reputable dealers...study them. Eventually you will get to a point where it is obvious that a card like this one is a fake - it just doesn't look right for a number of reasons...lots of little things will be percolating in your subconscious over time, to help you reach that point

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

Epilog -

The seller states that the acid head Cobb is real. Probably would have said that the Grove is real too. I do not think that the seller is stupid. I think he is fraudulent. What is your take?

Gil





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Hello

Yes it is a real card. Condition is off. The colors are from being wet. Hope this helps.

Roger

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Dear usedmart,

Hi, Is your E93 Cobb offering an authentic card manufactured about 100 years ago? And does the scan shown in your auction accurately represent the card's appearance (brown background with blue figure)? Thank you, G. Maines

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Posted By: Jay Miller

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=217&item=5149255185&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=217&item=5149255199&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=217&item=5149255174&rd=1

Here is my card version of three acid flashbacks

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Posted By: jay behrens

Gilbert, notice the vague answer. He says the card is real, whihch is true. You will get a real card. But he doesn't directly address if the card is an authentic card from the era. I am sure his answer that the color is the way it is because it got wet is also true and he probably knows this fact becuase he was the one that got the card wet.

Thruthful answer from him, but not the answers to the questions you asked.

Jay

The difference between genius and insanity is acceptance.

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Posted By: hankron

Says seller: "Condition is off. The colors are from being wet. Hope this helps."

The original card is a lithograph. Lithographic ink doesn't disolve in water. You would need much nastier stuff than water to make a tie dye out of the original card.

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Posted By: hankron

Having separated inks in my day (that's not drug slang), I can tell you that even if the original card was soaked overnight in the correct solvent the card wouldn't turn out this anyway.

The card reminds me of the drier lint filter that time I left crayola pens in the pants pocket.