T200 typo or reprint???

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Posted By: Ray

I recently purchased this T200 NY Giants card on eBay from a very, very repuatble person. It was my first T200, I originally got it because I'm a huge Christy Mathewson fan who can't afford to spend much on cards. (Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right?) Got hooked to the set when I saw Jim Thorpe is on the card too and Shoeless Joe is on the Cleveland card! Anyways, my concern is this...

Looking at the typing on the back, my card does not have a "." at the end of the last two lines of the card:

"7th Ave. and 16th St., New York City, N.Y"
and
"Factory No.25 Second District of VA"




Every card currently on eBay has a period at the end of each of those lines.

Should I be concerned about this being a reprint? Or does it just appear to be a typo from Fatima. Even Lew's Encyclopedia shows the periods.

Like I said, I bought this from a bigtime seller who has a flawless reputation.

Thanks,
Ray

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Posted By: petecld

Is the print missing becasue of surface damage?

Can you post an image of the front of the card?

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Posted By: hankron

The original T200 Fatimas are actual photographs. The images (team photos) on the reprints will have a ink dot pattern under a good magnifying glass. The original T200s have no dot pattern, as real photo images do not have a dot or similar ink-and-printing press pattern.

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Posted By: Ray

Not paper loss, you can see where it lookes like paper is stuck to the card by the "T" in district and the "y" in city. I'm gonna look at it under a microscope. I'm a science teacher, I'm sure my students would get a kick out of doing a "forensics study" of the card!

For some reason, the front won't upload onto the temporary files. is there a space limit each person gets?

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Posted By: leon

Sometimes some s/w will only load about a 75k jpg. I have no luck at home loading any bigger....but at work I can. You might try a less resolution (or smaller) scan.....take care

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Posted By: Trae R.

Feel free to upload here:
http://www.mlbvintage.com/pics/

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Posted By: Judge Dred

The FORUM FAQ indicates that you can upload an image that is 128K or less if the image is hosted by N54.

http://www.network54.com/Realm/V_B_C/faqs.html

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Posted By: Ray

my beauty!



Thanks Trae!

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Posted By: Ray

No opinions? Does anyone else have any t200's missing the two "." at the end of the last two lines???

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Posted By: leon

I hate it when no one answers.......so I grabbed mine (it's also a New York Nationals) out of my safe. It has the periods at the end of the 2 sentences. From the scan yours doesn't look like a fake though. I would think these would be difficult to fake as they were made on photographic type paper and wrinkle and curl up a lot. If the front of it looks real shiny and the back of it is dull paper then you should be ok....should be easy to tell in person...good luck

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Posted By: Andy Baran

I owned that exact card at one time, and it is definitely real. Never noticed the period differences. For the reasons stated by Leon, it would be really difficult to make a good forgery of that set.

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Posted By: hankron

Ray, if you already own other T200s, a reprint would stand out like a sore thumb.

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Posted By: Ray

OK, as a real card, I'd love to know if there are other cards with the periods missing. Like I said, I've seen like 10-12 backs, all with the periods at the ends of those lines. Would love to hear from someone who has a card with a back similar to mine.

Also nice to know my card has been owned by someone else on this forum!

It was my first T200. I only bought it because i'm a huge Matty fan. When I noticed Thorpe was on the card, I got really excited about it and learned about the rest of the set. I have the Washington card on its way to me as we speak.

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Posted By: Bruce Babcock

For what it's worth, all of my T200s (16) have the periods. I would not read anything into this, one or the other.

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Posted By: jay behrens

I find it amazing that when when someone finds an anomoly in a card, it is totally dismissed by others, but I am willing to bet that these same people that dismiss it would be hoping they hit the jackpot with a new variation if they owned the card. All you have to do is look at the silly prices people pay for a color missing from a t206, so why wouldn't this cariation command a premium?

Jay

Wow upside down is Mom. Mom upside down is what dad wants to see.

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Posted By: leon

It's 2 dots......on a mildly collected set.....regards

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Posted By: Ray

Jay, I appreciate the kind words. I wasn't even thinking of it in terms of hitting the jackpot! LOL, maybe I should have. I just wanted to be sure it was real.

That said, Leon, if the card does have this unique trait which seems to be rare, why should it be treated any differently than a "_nodgrass" card? haha! I know I'm dreaming there, but its still a variation with no other example known, as of right now.

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Posted By: Bryan

with the same "mistake" to make it an error or anything else like that? I always thought that if only one existed then it was just a fluke and nothing to get excited about. Just my 2 cents.

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Posted By: Scott

"2 dots missing" doesn't do much for me, but if an entire line of text were missing...well, I might have to put my hat over my lap.

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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

If this were stamp collecting, you could probably retire on your "find". But as a baseball card I feel this is probably a legit variation that while nobody would pay a premium for it is worth noting in the catalogs, has it been compared to other NY Nat'l teams or just to other various t200 teams? Also yours appears to have a period after "New York City" in the second to last line, the ones I own/have seen have a comma. That makes it 3 dots (not merely 2) which really makes it collectible!!!
-Rhett

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Posted By: Scott

...including 2 NYG ones - all had the dots.