Which of these two Minor League sets has the fewest remaining examples?

[Vintagecatcher]

With regards to these two Minor League Cabinet sets, which set has the fewest remaining examples: Old Mill Cabinets (H801-7) or Obak Cabinets (T4)?

I have always been curious as to how many examples of individual players still exist on average with these two Minor League sets.

Anyone willing to guess?

Here are my examples from each set with their smaller counterparts.


Patrick

[Bridwell]

Those are some awesome cards. Congrats!

It seems nobody is attempting any guesses yet. Both of these cabinet types are quite scarce and hard to obtain even a type card of. It seems to me the Old Mill cabinets are extremely scarce. Over the years I've rarely seen any being sold and rarely any specific player more than once.

The Obak T4 Cabinets seem a little more common and a few players I've seen come up for sale 3-4 times over the years. So I'm guessing the T4's are a bit more common to find. Thanks for sharing the scans. Very nice!

[Vintagecatcher]

Hi Ron,

I have been working on putting together a virtual library of scans of these two sets.

Here is a scan of my first T4 Cabinet, John Tiedemann, which was trimmed to the oval . While many of the T4 Obak Cabinets used images similar to the players 1911 Obak cards, you can see the T4 Obak Cabinet image includes a shot of John Tiedemann holding a ball while his 1911 Obak card does not.


Thanks again,


Patrick

[wonkaticket]

Good question…if I had to put money down on a bet…I may lean towards H801-7’s being a bit tougher. But that’s a total guess. Being tougher used a bit casually though as both types have been absent from major old time collections or those major collections having a single example etc. Both are very tough and very cool.

Great cards Patrick!

Cheers,

John

[barrysloate]

Agree with John. I've seen a few small groups of T4's being offered for sale, but I've never seen more than one or two H801-7's ever offered at one time. But I'm saying this from memory, which is getting creakier by the year.

[brianp-beme]

Over the years I have definitely noticed a lot more of the Obak cabinets. However, I also have a PCL collecting bent, so that might make them pop up in my mind's eye more readily (very familiar with how the regular issue Obaks look compared to the Old Mill issues).

In conclusion I would say T4's beat out H801-7 (even the ACC designation is barely recognizable) by a decent amount. They are both tough to come by, for crying out loud and a popsicle stick.

Brian

[wonkaticket]

Brian, please watch your language. This is a family place.