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View Poll Results: What would this lovely candy wagner grade today...from PSA? | |||
Authentic | 2 | 1.40% | |
1 | 44 | 30.77% | |
2 | 75 | 52.45% | |
Other | 22 | 15.38% | |
Voters: 143. You may not vote on this poll |
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What would it grade today?
In this episode of "what would it grade today"...an e95 honus wagner currently in REA. PSA 3...rounded corners, multiple creases...paper loss? An abomination of a vg 3.
What would this beautiful candy Wagner grade today...from PSA? |
#2
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IMO depends who the submitter is, but I'm expecting a 1 if that's my raw sub
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No option for PSA 1.5?!
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Agreed...I'd bet it would be a PSA 1 if I submitted that.
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#5
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My smartass answer is it depends who submitted it.
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Psa 2, Sgc 1.5
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#7
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I would say it is still a 3 now depending on who submitted it and how many times they are willing to resubmit it.
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Nice card and would probably grade a 2 perhaps a 1.5(but no option to vote)
Regardless someone will be happy to have it
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How in the world can that card grade anything but a '1'? Prolly 5% of the card is missing via the rounded corners.
Serious question here - is there a different grading scale for Pre-war cards vs newer ones? Because if a 1971 Topps was in that condition, does anyone think it would grade better than a '1'?
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Quote:
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There is a modicum of painful truth in your smartass statement. |
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Looks very good + to me.
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No chance is 5 percent of that card missing.
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PSA's incredibly variable grading criteria over the years aside...this should never have been/be a vg 3...imho of course!
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#17
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A 3 if its a favored auction house or one of the homies. A 2 for a big submitter. A 1.5 for most of us. A 1 for me.
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#18
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Looks like a 1 to me.
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#19
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1.5
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no way that cards a 3 today if submitted raw...no way Joses!
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Definitely would not fetch this price at a 1 or a 2...
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that's a really high price!!!!
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#23
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Not sure about today, and I had to look to see just how old this one was, but at least up until 2014 yeah a 3.
I've always considered the grade on the Young to be very generous, I was expecting a 2. I do think that cards of the bigger stars get a bump because of who is on the card. |
#24
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2.5
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#25
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Usually PSA allows one crease on the card for a 2 or sometimes even a 3 if the crease doesn't affect the player. The second one on the lower part of the card may be considered more of a surface wrinkle than a crease. Saying that, I think the corners are too rounded for a 3. I'd give the card a solid 2. It has too much eye appeal for a 1.
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Really the only right answer.
I voted 2 after looking at the back and it was fairly clean. However, I can think of a few submitters that may still get that 3. If I was to send, I would assume a 1.5 and take a 2 as a win. Sadly after seeing a bunch of hyperbolic reaction posts and youtube reactions, I can also believe that many people would send assuming a 4 or 5.
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2.5
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Wagner
1.5 from PSA. 2 from SGC.
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#29
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PSA would give me a 1.5 on this probably 85% of the time, a 1 maybe 10% of the time, and a 2 about 5% of the time.
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Not to hijack this thread, but this 3 is probably one of the most baffling I've seen...
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Wow, yeah, that would be a pretty fugly 1!
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Then again...
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Wow! I love the card, but damn, that is no 3.
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A new-label 3...
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Wow, it seems I have been under grading my T206's. Maybe I should start sending them in.
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I went with the majority opinion, but if I sent it in, definitely a 1.5
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#41
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WTF?????? If that's for real, I think you've got the GOAT for inexplicable (as in "bad") grading.
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#42
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Your results may vary.............No back damage and no wrinkles.
This is what I got back recently, the 4's and 5's were also well undergraded. |
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Maybe the grader's eyes are so used to looking at ultra-modern that when vintage comes in they’re just as critical of them as they are the ultra-modern.
It would be cool if there were specific card grader grading divisions based on the submission era. Last edited by Johnny630; 12-17-2022 at 04:40 PM. |
#44
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1957 Topps Mantle - the PSA 6 is an old old slab, I bought it on ebay a few years ago and when I got it, it didn't look right. So sent it to PSA for a review and they re-slabbed it.
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Yep, this is precisely in line with my observations. They've moved the goalposts by 2 full grades since the early days on postwar vintage mid-grade cards. You could have just sent it in as a reholder, and they would have sent it back in a newer 6 slab though, just FYI (although you probably already knew that).
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