Ty Cobb Tobacco Tin

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Posted By: Richard Dwyer

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2266730082

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Posted By: AAA, NASA grading

OK, one parting shot -

Why not cut out Ty Cobbs image with a pair of tin snips and send it to SGC for grading as the ultra rare "Ty Cobb Cut Plug" tin and call it the "TIN JOB". Lets make it really fancy and give it a good trim around the image because SGC will slab it. Look, SGC now slabs Scrapps so I'm sure a little cut out of a Tin Ty wouldn't be so difficult to slab.

Ok, I agree that this posting is cool because the item being referenced is pretty nice. I just wanted to possibly give some people an idea to really make this thing a truly unique relic from the past. I wanted to relate it to the ORANGE BORDER TY COBB thread to show just how ridiculous this hobby can get.

Again, stepping off my soap box with a lot of spit and venom left regarding the subject of the ORANGE BORDER TY COBB.

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Posted By: Dave

How do you make a statement like this:

"Heritage usually auctions material at the rate of 200-250 lots per hour."

and have only 917 feedback reports. And 24.5% buyers premium?

I think I'll pass. Cool box, though.

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Posted By: Greg Ecklund

Why stop at cutting the whole image out when you could cut the image into even smaller tin pieces and put them into Topps or Fleer cards?

That way everyone could own a "piece of history"

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Posted By: Richard Dwyer

Supposedly what T206 Ty Cobb backs came in. My guess would be that it would go for at least $30,000 to possibly $1,000,000. (?)

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Richard,
There are more than 3 known, I've seen atleast a dozen over the years and would guess 40-50 exist. I believe the winning bid will be between 5000-10,000, but you never know. Anyway, It's nice to see interesting Tobacco items popping up. Congrats on the ELPDG box, I would have bid, but the Timewarner cable guy messed up my roadrunner.

Be well Brian

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Posted By: Richard Dwyer

Yes, couldn't let that one go.

thanks to you, I now have hope of maybe getting a Ty Cobb tin!

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

These are NOT what the the Ty Cobb cards came in.

That is just some wishful speculation in the item description. Read it close.

The Ty Cobb card mentions "Smoking" on the back ... and if I am not mistaken, this stuff is for chewing?

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hal,
I agree, most experts believe the Cobb back cards were never inserted into packs, but premiums which were given out. With less than 25 known examples, and 5 coming from the same individual, it's doubtful we will ever know the true story. Maybe Art will chime in with some additional information. Be well Brian



PS Art and Doug .... Where is the Book????

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Posted By: Richard Dwyer

Up to $5000 now. Gonna go check it out in Long Beach, Calif.

http://www.heritagesportscollectibles.com/common/view_item.php?source=&Sale_No=701&Lot_No=19556

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Posted By: Richard Dwyer

Sold for: $14,940.00!

http://www.heritagesportscollectibles.com/common/view_item.php?source=&Sale_No=701&Lot_No=19556

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Posted By: Jon Canfield

$14,000 seems about right, maybe a little high based on condition. I do remember one selling in REA a while back for a ridiculous (sp?) amount. Also, just to echo everyone else, Ty Cobb backed cards most likely did NOT come in the tins. I believe the only reason why there is some speculation is that Lew bought a tin in the mid-80's that came with a Ty Cobb backed card. I may be wrong but I think I have the article in one of my Old Judge publications.

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Posted By: Josh Evans

For the record, I bought the Cobb tin and thought it was a relative bargain at $12,000 plus the juice. There are more like ten known examples (if that) and it is the king of the baseball tobacco tins easily outpacing brethren like the Cy Young and more generic baseball advertising tins. That tin would have brought that price 10-15 years ago.

Halper had the nicest one I ever saw and got a ton for his (about 15 years ago) in a private sale. I cannot remember the price but it was $50,000-75,000. This is only the second one I have ever had. The only other one I had was a lot of years ago (more than ten) and it may have even been the same one but don’t’ quote me on that. I think it’s the back cover of one of my early auction catalogues.

Heck, the Bambino’s (also an upright tobacco tin) are selling for over $2-3,000 now (they’ve doubled over that period) and have literally dried up. Scgaynor just got a hefty price on eBay for one that wasn’t even that nice and they are at least 20 times more common than the Cobb. And the Cobb blows that away in terms of graphics, it is earlier, has a real player rather than being a silhouetted knockoff, and is wonderfully “card related” whether the card came inside or not (I don’t know the answer to that question). Even the “Yankee Boy” tins have dried up and I see them priced up to $1,000 now. They used to be as common as dirt and were selling for $300 when the Cobb’s in this condition sold for $15,000. There would be at least three or four at every Brimfield in the “good old days.”

Interesting that the bidding/competition came from the internet for this one. This might say that there was more competition from the advertising/tin collectors who are a lot more advanced about this area than we are (it’s all they do). And this in a sale where very little of the bidding (I was surprised about that) came from the internet as opposed to the room.

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Posted By: qualitycards

Josh, did you snag this for your collection or will this be in an upcoming auction of yours?

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Posted By: Josh Evans

I am going to put it in our next auction.