Muhammad Ali Autograph on Angelo Marino REAL?

[grandstand69]

Originally Posted by drc

Obviously, it's nice to have the photos of Ali signing. Without those a lot people would be that much more suspicious.

What would be great too would be some sort of paper documentation or other evidence that Ali was hired to sign these, or at least sign for your dad/grandfather. I assume there was an agreement/contract, payment check.

Documentation/evidence your dad/grandfather had Ali do a signing + your photos of Ali Signing posters with the same design = good for cause. If you had a copy of the actual contract for the signing, that would be hard to beat.

This is one of the first things I tried searching for seeing I was most familiar with Bullpen then my family. All we could locate was a handwritten note on Marino letterhead saying he can't make it to a meeting. In the note he apologizes and gave 7-10 lithographs (no sports figure auto) all being the #1 in a series. I'm not sure if it was before or after this event. My grandpa was in charge of the business, pops in an Engineer who was only involved when needed and then more so towards the end when gramps just got to old. Record keeping wasn't anyone's strong suite. I believe early 90s was a handshake and
Cash transaction for everyone, including the athlete. Anyway great ideas all the way around. I'm just going to get one or two out there and see if psa or jsa is willing to authenticate a Marino piece. That's been my biggist concern from start of this post.

[drc]

It's true many athletes prefered to be paid in cash. Duke Snider, to name just one baseball player, got in trouble for not reporting his cash autograph payments to the IRS. Being paid in cash may have been standard procedure back then.

[Ringking]

Originally Posted by grandstand69

This is one of the first things I tried searching for seeing I was most familiar with Bullpen then my family. All we could locate was a handwritten note on Marino letterhead saying he can't make it to a meeting. In the note he apologizes and gave 7-10 lithographs (no sports figure auto) all being the #1 in a series. I'm not sure if it was before or after this event. My grandpa was in charge of the business, pops in an Engineer who was only involved when needed and then more so towards the end when gramps just got to old. Record keeping wasn't anyone's strong suite. I believe early 90s was a handshake and
Cash transaction for everyone, including the athlete. Anyway great ideas all the way around. I'm just going to get one or two out there and see if psa or jsa is willing to authenticate a Marino piece. That's been my biggist concern from start of this post.

The artist still sells his stuff on ebay. When some friends were looking into the family on a item that surfaced, when they were contacted (via website) they directed us to EBAY, where Angelo still sells his art (not signed). Even though he has a website, they will direct you to ebay, and when questioned about bullpen reply's were not answered...

35 items on ebay by him, and every week a "player signed" item shows up http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=....c0.m270.l1313