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Posted By: scott
being new to bidding for cards on ebay and after various posts on the subject...what's your opininion on using such a service.i've bought many items of non collectable nature on ebay such as outdoor gear or history books and part of the fun was bidding .granted...for cards its very competitive to say the least but it seems like somethings lost by using such a service.i guess i'm old school in thought and yearn for the old days ...pregrading days,huge $, etc. |
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Posted By: David H
exactly. |
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Posted By: Chad
But sometimes I can't get to a computer at the end of an auction. I lost a Billiken card the otehr day because of it, and I don't want it to happen again. So I'm going to use the snipe function for auctions I can't bid on live. Besides, anymore, I find at the end of the auction I can't keep up manually with all the snipe bids coming in. I can't beat them, so I guess I'm joining them--on occasion at least. I'm ok with that. I really prefer the auctions with the ten minute rules, etc. so I don't have to worry about these last second shenanigans. Ah well. |
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Posted By: Julie
auction's end, that I started using a sniping service. With a few weird exceptions,I've been using one ever since. |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
it is superb. I use it for everything. Not only does a snipe service save you a ton of time but it often saves you a lot of money because you don't have a high bid there for people (shills) to peck away at. |
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Posted By: scott
..i realize using a service is probably the way to go.i'm actually considering one myself even though i hate to do it.it was nice at one time bidding on an item that ended during the day when most people worked and i had off,having that advantage.times have changed and getting back into the hobby now is definately different.but still fun. |
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Posted By: tbob
The practicality of it is that you CAN'T win wire to wire anymore and if you put in a big bid on the front end, as Adam says, you get pecked to death, even if you win. The only reason I see to put in a reasonable bid early is because you might have some card buddies who "owe you one" and will stay off a card you want. |
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Posted By: Will
I am missing something here. What is the advantage of sniping over just placing a max bid? I don't have to pay to bid, I still have to figure out what I am willing to pay for the item and I don't have to watch it. If many are sniping, how many last second bids are accepted? Of course, if my max is higher than any sniped maxes, I still win. Don't quite see the point (yet). |
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Posted By: Glenn
Will, |
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Posted By: will watson
i'm torn on the issue of sniping services. i've never used one, mainly because i trust myself to place a bid with 5 seconds left more than an automated bid service. many times, snipes don't go through. |
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Posted By: Glenn
60 people looked at the card. Don't you think some of them would have bid on it if it had been stuck at $9? Maybe the winning bidder could have won it for $14, but I don't think $9.50 is very likely. |
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Posted By: Tim Newcomb
The actuarial types can weigh in and correct me if I'm wrong, but everything I've read and heard suggests that widespread sniping depresses the final hammer price of auctions -- that's in aggregate, of course, not necessarily on any given auction. This is mostly for the reasons mentioned by other posters-- underbidders driving you up to your max, and so on-- but also for psychological reasons. |
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Posted By: Glenn
If anyone else is interested, I've just located what appears to be an excellent paper on the topic by Ariely, Ockenfels, & Roth (2002). |
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Posted By: Anson
Some of these services are nice if you can't babysit the auctions. However, don't put too much trust in them. If you're good, you can generally outsnipe an esniper manually. |
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Posted By: Chuck R
Not sure what you mean by outsniping. I generally use esnipe for everything. It's only failed once in a year and a half. If it is something that I have to have (something ultra rare,that is) then I will make a point of being there at the end and manually putting a bid in myself just in case my ensipe bid fails. My redundant esnipe bid in this case also backs me up if I do something stupid manually. |
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Posted By: Dave
I almost always snipe when I bid. I don't use a service though, just hit the confirm button when there are less than 10 seconds left. I have high speed, and this will get in on time. I also open two IE windows, one to place the bid, and the other to refresh on my card of interest. |
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Posted By: Julie
my sniping service has only failed me once in 3 years..and I'm not always home on Sunday, which is when most auctions close. |
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Posted By: Brian McQueen
I agree with David on this one. Bidding a high amount early on is almost like "showing your hand" to your competitors. If they know what you're doing, they'll have several days to decide whether or not to try and bid higher or chip away at your max bid. Significant bidding early on also alerts others to who might be wanting the card in general and what competition you might be facing. |
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Posted By: Bob Rousseau
The thing that got me to start using a sniping service was when a group of nearly simultaneous Ebay auctions was happening within a very short window of time- I think it was in fact the "Florida Find" of T206 cards a few years back- and the auctions were all spaced to end within probably 10 seconds of each other. In part because I was using a semi-old computer with (gasp!) dial up, and in part because I think so many people were bidding on those, I found Ebay kept freezing up on me. It was MADDENING! So- I decided I was going to let someone else's computer system do the last minute scramble for me. I was also tired of the 3 a.m. end times on some auctions. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
Brian I have to disagree with you on your statement that "savvy bidders" can render sniping services useless. One of the main reasons I use esnipe is that I don't want to be caught up in the emotions of leap frogging with someone in the last minute. I set a max amount I'm willing to pay for something, set it to go within the last 10 seconds and let it fly: if I win I win, if not, I'll live. When I'm selling, I love it when the "savvy" bidders get into the pace of the auction in the last minute. |
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Posted By: Brian McQueen
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Posted By: Julie
and you can have your sniping service rasise your bid to adjust to the "auction's |
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