Mag & One-Screw Cases - fool me twice...

[irv]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

I am officially done with any kind of recessed mag, or one-screw cases like you can get from Ultra Pro or Pro-Mold. I’ve mentioned in previous threads, one of my pet peeves is cards that slide around in holders like these, as well as some graded slabs. Just now I tried the Pro-Mold 20 point, figuring that it may be more snug than the mag cases which are nicer, but only go down to 35 point. Frequently late 1960’s and early 70’s cards that were printed on the thinner stock will slide around willy nilly, left and right in these type cases. I’ve read before here on this forum and elsewhere ad-nauseam opinions on how a card can’t really get hurt even if it moves around some in the holder, but to me it’s just unsightly and nerve-wracking as hell to see this - when some cards do it and some don’t. I guess it messes with my OCD.

Anyhow no, the 20-point cases that’s arrived this morning don’t do the job either - I tried 1965 and 1968 Topps cards, and both still slide. Maybe the pressure on the top from the screw isn’t enough to hold it down to really get a 20-pt gap?

I don’t know but sick of this, and I’m done. Toploaders and penny sleeves only for me from here on out...oy.



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Maybe all of your cards are trimmed? (j/k)

I've stuck with penny sleeves and top loaders myself based on information like yours.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by irv

Maybe all of your cards are trimmed? (j/k)

I've stuck with penny sleeves and top loaders myself based on information like yours.

The only cards I have found to work well with mag cases and the like seem to be 1957 - early 60's cards. The card stock was simply thicker.

[buymycards]

I see many cards that have been damaged when someone put the card in the sleeve. The corner gets a ding. Using penny sleeves and toploads can be a pain, so I have switched to card saver 1's with no sleeve. The cards don't move around and they are easy to insert into the CS. I have been seeing other dealers at shows who have made the switch. You just have to buy some graded card 2 and 3 row showboxes so the CS1's can be stored.

[irv]

Originally Posted by buymycards

I see many cards that have been damaged when someone put the card in the sleeve. The corner gets a ding. Using penny sleeves and toploads can be a pain, so I have switched to card saver 1's with no sleeve. The cards don't move around and they are easy to insert into the CS. I have been seeing other dealers at shows who have made the switch. You just have to buy some graded card 2 and 3 row showboxes so the CS1's can be stored.

At the 10:00 minute mark this guy shows you how to avoid those little nicks putting your cards into sleeves.
https://youtu.be/5ipg51mjzTo

[KCRfan1]

I use a penny sleeve in the single screw down holders. Works like a charm in preventing the card from sliding around the holder.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

I use a penny sleeve in the single screw down holders. Works like a charm in preventing the card from sliding around the holder.

I’ve tried this before, may need to again. I recall that it was difficult to get the card positioned just right in the sleeve with the rails on the holder. But true if you can get this done properly, you’re basically doing the same thing as Beckett does with their graded holders.


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[buymycards]

Originally Posted by irv

At the 10:00 minute mark this guy shows you how to avoid those little nicks putting your cards into sleeves.
https://youtu.be/5ipg51mjzTo

Thank you, Dale. That was interesting. His technique will help, but if you try sliding a 1971 Topps BB card in like that, it will probably be damaged. I generally use a razor and slit the corner of the sleeve which helps a lot. Ultra Pro makes sleeves that are already slit, but the slits are not lined up correctly and they make it more difficult to insert a card without damage.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Thank you, Dale. That was interesting. His technique will help, but if you try sliding a 1971 Topps BB card in like that, it will probably be damaged. I generally use a razor and slit the corner of the sleeve which helps a lot. Ultra Pro makes sleeves that are already slit, but the slits are not lined up correctly and they make it more difficult to insert a card without damage.

Agreed that penny sleeves can be a total PITA. It's deceiving sometimes how fragile corners on vintage cards can be, and especially those with rough cuts. I've never cut the sides of the sleeves, but I am very careful and have taken probably upwards of 2-3 minutes before to get a single card into a sleeve before. Usually with enough straightening out once one side is in, and then bending the sleeve from behind to go in front of the next corner - it will eventually work.

[Marchillo]

Sometimes I will also snip a very small piece of one corner off - slides in perfect and doesn't expose the corner. Of course if you are sleeving a ton of cards this becomes a tad tedious.