NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Postwar Sportscard Forums > Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-14-2021, 12:19 PM
deweyinthehall deweyinthehall is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 674
Default Tony Horton

I am aware of the issues Tony Horton dealt with during his career, but I was wondering why he never appeared on a Topps card (aside from the leader card) - are the two related?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-14-2021, 12:34 PM
roarfrom34 roarfrom34 is offline
Bill H@e1ig
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 1,494
Default

http://boblemke.blogspot.com/2015/02...ny-horton.html
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-14-2021, 02:37 PM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 8,947
Default

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KI...1HBaS3OLmkROI-

Last edited by ALR-bishop; 07-14-2021 at 02:42 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-14-2021, 07:10 PM
Harliduck's Avatar
Harliduck Harliduck is offline
John Otto
J0hn Ot.to
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Marysville, Wa
Posts: 1,679
Default

I found this article from 1985...values are quite outdated and fun, and a few good quotes from Sy Berger, including an explanation about Tony Horton...

https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/29/s...thout-gum.html

Some really excellent articles out there about Mr. Horton...tough story but glad he seemed to have figured out what made him ok...
__________________
John Otto

1963 Fleer - 1981-90 Fleer/Donruss/Score/Leaf Complete
1953 - 1990 Topps/Bowman Complete
1953-55 Dormand SGC COMPLETE SGC AVG Score - 4.03
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-15-2021, 06:54 AM
deweyinthehall deweyinthehall is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 674
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harliduck View Post
I found this article from 1985...values are quite outdated and fun, and a few good quotes from Sy Berger, including an explanation about Tony Horton...

https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/29/s...thout-gum.html

Some really excellent articles out there about Mr. Horton...tough story but glad he seemed to have figured out what made him ok...
Thanks for this and for the previous posters' replies as well.

$10000 for a 1952 complete set? I think I'd splurge. It is a big jump from 1979 - I have the first Sport Americana which was published that year and lists it at 4300, with the Mantle at 500 and high numbers at 34. Good times, huh?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-15-2021, 07:41 AM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 8,947
Default

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-15-2021, 10:39 AM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 8,947
Default

In checking I ended up with two of Bob Lemke’s Horton cards, 65 and 67. There are a bunch of copies from Bob’s creations for Horton on ebay now, but almost all seem to be on thin stock unlike Bob’s which wete on regular stock. Bob created many custom cards and those which proved popular got reproduced on 100 card sheets which he sold or which were sold after his death
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-15-2021, 12:40 PM
commishbob's Avatar
commishbob commishbob is offline
Bob Andrews
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Houston Tx Area
Posts: 1,364
Default

My best friend and I were at Yankee Stadium for this fun confrontation between Horton and Steve Hamilton in 1970.

Horton and the Folly Floater

It was an amazing day at the ballpark. Bobby Murcer hit four homers in the doubleheader, someone heaved a huge firecracker that landed next to Ray Fosse behind the plate and it scared the hell out of everyone, especially Fosse, and Vada Pinson took exception to Stan Bahnsen's tag at home plate and they squared off and threw punches.

My blog post has a link to the next day's newspaper accounts.
__________________
People are crazy and times are strange, I used to care but things have changed -Dylan
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-15-2021, 12:46 PM
Gr8Beldini Gr8Beldini is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 457
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by deweyinthehall View Post
I am aware of the issues Tony Horton dealt with during his career, but I was wondering why he never appeared on a Topps card (aside from the leader card) - are the two related?
What leader card was Tony Horton on?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-15-2021, 12:50 PM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 8,947
Default

Willie ? 1969

Last edited by ALR-bishop; 07-15-2021 at 12:52 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-15-2021, 01:01 PM
nolemmings's Avatar
nolemmings nolemmings is offline
Todd Schultz
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 3,720
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gr8Beldini View Post
What leader card was Tony Horton on?
I don't believe he is, unless you count his name being listed on the back among the leaders, which as you know typically included dozens of names;
__________________
If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other. - Ulysses S. Grant, military commander, 18th US President.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-17-2021, 04:16 PM
deweyinthehall deweyinthehall is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 674
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gr8Beldini View Post
What leader card was Tony Horton on?
My bad - when I made the original post, I would have sworn I recalled a small pick of Horton as one of 3 players on a Topps leader card...well, I've gone to my albums and google and am now convinced I must of imagined it. I was so positive too - I recall sometime way back when when I thought I discovered this that I thought "wow - I didn't think he was on any Topps cards!".

Turns out he wasn't and I've had a multi-point senior moment!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-17-2021, 07:04 PM
Cliff Bowman's Avatar
Cliff Bowman Cliff Bowman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Near Atlanta
Posts: 2,514
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by deweyinthehall View Post
My bad - when I made the original post, I would have sworn I recalled a small pick of Horton as one of 3 players on a Topps leader card...well, I've gone to my albums and google and am now convinced I must of imagined it. I was so positive too - I recall sometime way back when when I thought I discovered this that I thought "wow - I didn't think he was on any Topps cards!".

Turns out he wasn't and I've had a multi-point senior moment!
I would imagine Horton is pictured on a few Topps team cards. ETA, here he is on the 1970 Topps team card.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 70 topps indians team.jpg (76.0 KB, 293 views)
__________________
“interesting to some absolute garbage to others.” —- “Error cards and variations are for morons, IMHO.”

Last edited by Cliff Bowman; 07-17-2021 at 07:10 PM. Reason: Addition
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-17-2021, 08:19 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is online now
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 30,264
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by deweyinthehall View Post
My bad - when I made the original post, I would have sworn I recalled a small pick of Horton as one of 3 players on a Topps leader card...well, I've gone to my albums and google and am now convinced I must of imagined it. I was so positive too - I recall sometime way back when when I thought I discovered this that I thought "wow - I didn't think he was on any Topps cards!".

Turns out he wasn't and I've had a multi-point senior moment!
Maybe you were thinking Willie Horton?
__________________
My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at
https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/

He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-17-2021, 08:42 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is online now
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 30,264
Default

Despite not signing with Topps, Horton has a Milton Bradley and Kellogg's issue.
__________________
My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at
https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/

He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-24-2021, 05:27 PM
JLange's Avatar
JLange JLange is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: philadelphia
Posts: 555
Default Tony Horton Checklist

Tony Horton Checklist

For a player who doesn’t have an individual Topps Baseball Card, there sure are a lot of other issues depicting Tony Horton. I count more than 30 items, including multiple food issues (Kahn’s, Kellogg’s, Little Caesar’s, Nabisco), a Sporting News Magazine cover, several posters (SI, Cleveland Press), and at least 5 different PCs (JD McCarthy, Cleveland Team Issue, Mike Anderson PCs). In addition to those below, there are numerous press photos, snapshots and modern fantasy cards of Tony Horton on ebay and other venues. The first four and last two items on the checklist below show Tony with the Boston Red Sox, the rest with the Cleveland Indians.

The underlined items are also checklisted at the Trading Card Database website.


Tony Horton Checklist
  • 1965 Boston Red Sox Picture Pack #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1966 Boston Red Sox Color Picture Pack A #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1960s JD McCarthy Postcards #NNO A.D. Horton
  • 1967 Boston Red Sox 8x10 Team Issue B&W Photos #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1968 Cleveland Indians Picture Pack 6x9 Color Photos #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1968 Cleveland Indians 5x7 B&W Publicity Photos #NNO Tony Horton (portrait)
  • 1968 Cleveland Indians 8x10 Team Issue B&W Photos #NNO Tony Horton (batting)
  • 1968 Kahn's Wieners #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1968 Sports Illustrated Poster Cards #5A2 Tony Horton
  • 1968 Jun 29, The Sporting News, Vol 165 No 24, Tony Horton Cover
  • 1968 Cleveland Press Newspaper Pop Poster #30 Tony Horton
  • 1963-69 Cleveland Indians Team Issue PCs #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1969 Globe Imports Playing Cards Gas Station Issue #6♦ Tony Horton (blank back)
  • 1969 Globe Imports Playing Cards Gas Station Issue #6♦ Tony Horton (checkerboard back)
  • 1969 Kahn's Wieners #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1969 Mike Andersen Postcards #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1969 Milton Bradley #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1969 MLB PhotoStamps #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1969 MLBPA Pins #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1969 Nabisco Team Flakes #NNO Tony Horton (narrow borders)
  • 1969 Nabisco Team Flakes #NNO Tony Horton (wide borders)
  • 1970 IHOP Restaurant 10x15 Placemats #NNO Cleveland Indians w/ Tony Horton
  • 1970 Little Caesar’s Pizza Treat 5x7 B&W Premium Tony Horton
  • 1970 Mike Andersen Postcards #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1970 MLB PhotoStamps #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1970-71 Cleveland Indians Team Issue PCs #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1970-71 Dayton Daily News M137 #21 Tony Horton (issued 4/26/1970)
  • 1971 Dell Today's Team Stamps #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1971 Kellogg's #69 Tony Horton
  • 1971 Kellogg's - XOGRAPH #69 Tony Horton
  • 1972 Milton Bradley #NNO Tony Horton
  • 1978 TCMA The 1960's I #128 Tony Horton
  • 1983 Boston Globe Boston Red Sox Series 2 #85 Tony Horton
__________________
Jason
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-24-2021, 05:30 PM
JLange's Avatar
JLange JLange is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: philadelphia
Posts: 555
Default Tony Horton Cards

Here’s a few of my Tony Horton items. There is one interesting item that appears to be a premium from Little Caesars, measuring 5x7, from about 1970. I got this on ebay a few years ago and haven’t found out anything new about it. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Would love to see other Tony Horton items, and maybe expand on the checklist further.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0998.jpg (78.8 KB, 226 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1005.jpg (71.8 KB, 226 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1002.jpg (75.7 KB, 224 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1003.jpg (74.6 KB, 228 views)
__________________
Jason
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-24-2021, 05:52 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is online now
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 30,264
Default

What's the source of that checklist, would love to look up some other players.
__________________
My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at
https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/

He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-24-2021, 06:18 PM
JLange's Avatar
JLange JLange is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: philadelphia
Posts: 555
Default Tony Horton

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
What's the source of that checklist, would love to look up some other players.
The checklist is really compiled from multiple sources, including the Standard Catalog, Trading Card Database, eBay, Worthpoint, and a few collector checklists. I have only pursued Tony Horton’s Cleveland cards, so I am not really familiar with the Boston issues. I am guessing there are other items to add to the list.
__________________
Jason
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-31-2023, 09:19 AM
whiteymet whiteymet is offline
Fr3d mcKi3
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: whiteymet
Posts: 1,995
Default Tony Horton autographed ball

Bringing this thread back to life.

I am looking for a single signed Tony Horton ball. A friend has all the AL Champ Red Sox balls except for Tony. His Dad had the collection and he is trying to complete the set as an honor to his father.

PLMK if you have one. Thanks
__________________
Fr3d mcKi3
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 07-31-2023, 09:32 AM
raulus raulus is offline
Nicol0 Pin.oli
 
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 1,814
Default

Not what you're looking for, Fred, but I do have one of these. Unfortunately, the printing is so bad that you can't really even make out his face. Almost like he's wearing a fencing mask, or he's the Mandalorian.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg horton front.jpg (200.4 KB, 132 views)
File Type: jpg horton back.jpg (205.0 KB, 130 views)
__________________
Trying to wrap up my master mays set, with just a few left:

1963 Post complete panel
1968 American Oil left side
1971 Bazooka numbered complete panel

Last edited by raulus; 07-31-2023 at 09:35 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 08-01-2023, 01:31 AM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 8,947
Default

A Lemke
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 2023-01-08_140838.jpg (55.8 KB, 79 views)
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 08-01-2023, 01:33 AM
ALR-bishop ALR-bishop is offline
Al Richter
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 8,947
Default

Back
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 2023-01-08_140948.jpg (79.1 KB, 79 views)
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How tough is it to find single signed balls from Tony Horton and Don McMahon? whiteymet Autograph Forum- Primarily Sports 6 11-01-2021 09:03 AM
Tony Horton 1966 Red Sox Jersey (G/U?) MCyganik Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 6 09-15-2019 07:08 PM
Verdict is in on the Tim Horton Autograph Baseballcrazy62 Autograph Forum- Primarily Sports 10 04-20-2019 01:32 AM
Tim Horton: looking for your opinion Baseballcrazy62 Autograph Forum- Primarily Sports 3 04-16-2019 05:49 PM
Anyone have any experience with a Tim Horton Autograph? quinnsryche Autograph Forum- Primarily Sports 4 11-24-2016 03:24 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:03 PM.


ebay GSB