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Thanks for the response, Travis. I was afraid I might hear that. They clearly came from the same owner, so there is every possibilty they were all bought at the same time and place. I'm sure the auction house didn't know these might be fakes, but I'm hoping we can work something out, so I'm not out all my money. Can I ask what it is with the signatures that makes you say that they're similar to what you've seen around? I would like to know what to keep an eye out for in the future. Thanks again for taking the time and if anyone else has anything to pass along, I'm all ears.
Last edited by soxfan12; 05-13-2012 at 11:33 PM. |
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Just get your money back if you can. Typical Morales certed crap.
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[QUOTE=soxfan12;993130]"I'm sure the auction house didn't know these might be fakes."
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Soxfan12,
What part of the country are you in? Can you tell us the name of the auction? Your situation is exactly what a lot of us here are trying to prevent. Hopefully the auction house will work with you, but most will fall back on the "As is, where is".
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redsoxfan if you see them long enough, you can recognize them instantly, if you look at the Ali, the capital M in Muhammad and the h in Muhammad are dead giveaways. all of this type of forgery looks exactly the same, there is no variation, no personalization, and they are all on glossy 8 x 10 photos, no slips of paper or islamic pamphlets, etc, that you would expect to see also. Last edited by travrosty; 05-14-2012 at 09:28 AM. |
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Arent't the Mantle & Mays on the same type of "lithograph" as the Mantle & Whitey someone posted last week?
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=150719 Last edited by scmavl; 05-14-2012 at 10:12 AM. |
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Start by learning the basics, like ALI & Mantle. There are several studies and collectors around that can help. Put in a couple hours a day (it's fun) learning the differences and the fakes will just start to jump right out at you after a few weeks. As for the Mantle...The M's (1/2 moons) are horribly shaped and shaky. Mickey didn't dot his "c". The "ick" is, well ICK, with the K appearing buffoonish. The interaction between the "Ma" is horrible with the "a" appearing cartoonish. While the "n" isn't bad, the relationship to the "tle" is horrid and the base line is sickening. All in All, not 1 thing really makes this looks good. It gets 0 (ZERO) points out of 10 on Fudd's scale from 1-10. Make your own scale and only buy 9's and 10's regardless of COA's. NOW GO GET YOUR MONEY BACK!!!!!Run, don't walk and don't ever make the same mistake, buying on impulse with-out doing your homework. If you don't want to waste your time doing that, don't waste your time with autographs altogether. Not too many are going to know Ali like Travis and there are many that can help you with Mantle and the others. Good Luck Last edited by Fuddjcal; 05-14-2012 at 10:25 AM. |
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Thank you all for your input.
Deertick, I'd rather not say the name of the auction house at this point because I don't know that they knowingly sold fake stuff and I don't think it would be fair to out them if they are willing to work with me on this. I will say, though, that I am in New England. And I appreciate you and others trying to keep this sort of thing from happening. Fuddjcal, thanks, too, for all the details. As I mentioned, I am still only new to collecting and, clearly, didn't know what to look for in my initial inspecting. This won't keep me from collecting further, but I'll now know to be much more careful. I will be visiting the auction house tomorrow in hopes of clearing this all up. Thanks again to everyone for taking the time to help out. Last edited by soxfan12; 05-14-2012 at 06:33 PM. |
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that I am in New England
that is what I was afraid of, I dont want people around here getting ripped off
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Thank you. Neither do I. It sucks that it happens anywhere.
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The bulk seem to be in FL. That may be because I am more aware of the local stuff, or because it seems to be originating here. But I am aware of heavy infestations in Texas and Pennsylvania, and other pockets that show up, as James Wymer recently outed. The only thing we can do is keep the pressure on.
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You got that right.
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Did Hank Aaron forget that his first name had an 'n' in it?
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