How does a card w/ paper loss grade a 4?

[vintagehofrookies]

is it just me or does this grade seem a little high for this card?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...item4d1ff32a04

Its still a nice looking card but I'm curious about the grade, although I have been very dormant in the vintage world this past year or so and it could just be my rust showing

Dan

[freakhappy]

Wow, IMO that card should be nowhere near a PSA 4 holder!

As far as the paper loss, I believe what you are seeing is what some people (and in this case the grader too) would call "chipping" and not so much paper loss, but in reality, they are pretty much the same thing. The chipping looks rough and deeper ingrained in the card and seems to lead to paper loss and not just peeling of the surface gloss. The card in question seems to have other issues that should prevent it from being in a VG-EX holder any day of the week, but what do I know

I don't mind if graders mis-grade here and there and only by small amounts, but when it's obvious, it kinda ticks me off. I mean, people pay decent money to put their trust in a service and this is what they get? At least be consistent with the obvious and easy ones!!

[JollyElm]

Yowza!!

[Ladder7]

Not original slab?.. The flip looks damaged.

[bnorth]

I am amazed that any anything PSA does amazes anyone any more.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Ladder7

Not original slab?.. The flip looks damaged.

Maybe so? I am suspect of the holder too. At any rate the buyer does give a 14 day return policy.....The card doesn't look like a 4 though. I would think it's a 2...

[cammb]

It gets a 4 because it probably belonged, at one time, to one of their favored customers.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by cammb

It gets a 4 because it probably belonged, at one time, to one of their favored customers.

Yeah, that's surely what happened.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

The grade seems pretty high to me as well. Paper loss on the front is usually a killer.


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[bn2cardz]

It is even harder to believe that this card has been around so long and selling for '4' prices. There are 2 past sales of this card in the holder on cardtarget with one back in 2009.

[Mrc32]

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

It is even harder to believe that this card has been around so long and selling for '4' prices. There are 2 past sales of this card in the holder on cardtarget with one back in 2009.

Exactly. Here is the same card from 4-12-09, so I doubt the case has been compromised.



I've shown a T206 Tinker on here before that was graded a PSA 6 with paper loss (formerly owned by a board member). I have the image on my home computer and can post it later this evening.

[tbob]

I've seen similar cards on ebay in SGC 10 holders

[ValKehl]

I would grade this T206 Young card a 1.5.
Val

[cammb]

Originally Posted by tbob

I've seen similar cards on ebay in SGC 10 holders

Exactly! Thats why PSA sucks.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by tbob

I've seen similar cards on ebay in SGC 10 holders

I have also seen T206's graded SGC 60 and higher with rounded corners....beating a dead horse again....