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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Jon Canfield
WARNING - NOT VINTAGE RELATED!!! I just saw Lance won the 17th stage, increasing his lead to 4+ minutes and all but won a 6th tour. Regardless if you like the sport and in spite of all the doping allegations that seem to hang over every athlete right now, you gotta respect this guy. Anyone who can ride his bike at sprint speed up the Alps in 90 degree heat year after year and be so dominating (untouchable) is incredible/unhuman. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Eric
I follow the Tour too, and think Lance is probably the most dominant male athlete in the country. Saw that he won again this morning, pretty much sewing up his 6th straight Tour. I was also glad to see ESPN give him the top male athlete of the year with their Espy Award. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: jay behrens
The drug allegations aside, I saw a special on Armstrong and it pointed out what a physical freak the guy is. His heart 1/3 larger and his lungs can process 50% more oxygen than the average person. That alone is huge advantage over the competetion. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: andy becker
i saw something on him on espn too, but i must have missed that part. the human version of secratariate. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Dan
Have you heard the reports that as he rode through some cities, the local Frenchmen were SPITTING on him? How crazy is that? How quickly they forgot how we saves their as*&s at Normandy in WWII and now with all the garbage going on in Iraq, they won't even send people to help stabilize the area, but they want us out and piece all at the same time... |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: jay behrens
Armstrong has said his biggest fear is some nutjob on a roadside jumping out and trying to do him harm to keep him from winning. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Bill Kasel
I'm surprised they aren't all surrendering as he passes them. Lord knows they cower in fear at any sign of quick movement and/or hint of conflict and then wait for the rest of the world to bail them out. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Dan
I spit on you all!!!! It would appear that is the only weapon they own...since they sold all of their's to Iraq, Iran, etc. a few years ago. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Julie Vognar
Je ne savez pas si j'aime le pays, car c'est si loin... |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Gary B.
Careful people, it's hate that leads to wars. I have nothing personal against the French, The Iraquis the Saudis, hell the Aborigines in Australia... The acts of individuals can't condemn entire nations, and moreover, you can't blame individuals for being influenced by the philosophies and misinformation from their governments. I personally have love and compassion for all people. I digress. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: David Vargha
Screw the French. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Max Weder
Julia: |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Ben
Voyez, la plupart des cartes francais de basebball ont ete imprimes a Montreal. Le plus notamment ensembles produits a Montréal étant les 33-34 goudeys canadiens. Des cartes Francais de Quebecois ne sont pas donnees un escompte significatif, ou sont confondues avec les cartes francaises-Parisiennes, principalement parce qu'il n'y avait pas de baseball en France a ce moment-la. BTW, je refuse de transformer cette discussion d'une discussion politique, je promets |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Max Weder
Merci Ben. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: jay behrens
I have had the displeasure of traveling thru France. The rudest group of people I've ever met in my life. I'd rather go back to Sri Lanke, Pakistan or some other 3rd world backwater before I ever set foot in France again. Nice wasn't too bad, but that's only becuase they rely so heavily on tourism. Get out in the countryside, and you get to really experience the France. Rude, crass, filthy people. Me and my buddy we literally dodging kitchen scraps being tossed out the upper floor windows into the street where loose pigs and chickens could eat the stuff. Nasty, nasty place and I'll only go back if someone pays my way there for me. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Julie
La carte de Moe Berg, '33 WWG, en francais et englais, est tres cher, parceque il avait su--on dit-14 langues. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Dan
I was in Poland, Gdansk and Warsaw, for a symposium of their military contigency and NATO stuff. By far the nicest people I have ever met. They loved us, Americans, and frequently spoke of how grateful they still are for all of the help during WWI and WWII. Beware of the pickpockets though, they make a living by lifting wallets. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Julie
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Julie Vognar
Moi, j'aime l'Ettinger. Pourquoi pas "nuages de bleu"? Voila la carte N162 de Kelly--nuages des tous les colours. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Max Weder
Julia and Ben |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Ben
Wow, that second portrayal of smokey is simply AWESOME! (not smokey Joe, is it?) Love the colour scheme and the mood it sets. I hope I didn't come across as patronizing with the blue cloud comment, I think all the art is great and I appreciate your sharing it with us. I'm somewhat of an artist myself, but my stuff is usually not at all baseball related. Julie- got a scan of that Eddie Mathews sketch? |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Julie Vognar
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Gary B.
I actually said that I love the French too, but it's funny that you thought I meant something else |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Julie Vognar
..which means " Yes, Julie, I love you (to a close friend, etc.) the French (language only, I think) also." It's the "t" what did it. Maybe you've had more practice talking to French speaking individuals than about the French language! Certainly more fun... |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: jay behrens
All I have to say is, "Ich bin ein Berliner" :-p |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Gary B.
Would it have been correct to say; Oui, Julie, j'aime le francais aussi? Anyway, you know what I meant. Not to say I don't love you, but I was saying...oh, never mind... |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Julie Vognar
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Kevin O
I'm pretty much the least confrontational person I know, but I've got to say a word or two on the direction of this thread. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Julie Vognar
C'est le loi? |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: jay behrens
When I travel, I never expect to be treated special. I know enough German not to come across as ignorant American and love better then to explore local area rather than go to the tourist traps. When I was in France, my friend that was with me spoke what I thought was fluent French, yet we treat with rudeness and arrogance when they figured out we were American. Please explain to me how speaking local language and wanting to learn about the local warrants rudeness? This was not isolated cases. This was repeated in town after town. We even had one street vendor refuse to sell food to use becuase we were Americans even though we spoke French to him and did not act "American" in any way. Apparently, my friend spoke "book" French, or some such, and not "true" French, which the locals seemed to readily notice. And yes, I know that in general people are good by nature, but when confronted by repeated rudeness and arrogance, you have no choice but to write off the group. I have other places I'd raher spend my meager travel dollars than with the French. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Max Weder
One of my favorite French tourist stories is when two of my unilingual Quebecois friends (that is, they spoke no English) travelled to France. When they spoke to the locals,the Parisiens continually would only reply to them in English, as they professed not to understand my friends. I don't know if this was merely a condescending response on behalf of the French in rejecting the perceived lower class French spoken by the Quebecois, or whether the French genuinely didn't comprehend the Quebecois French. |
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Even if you're not a cycling fan...
Posted By: Julie Vognar
and after repeated exposure to the soundtrack, I found myself learning a little French, and also noticing that when the people got excited, there would be sounds in their speech which I didn't particularly associate with French, but when they spoke with any degree of calmness, their French was as she is spoke in France. No matter how amusing or sad or whatever they were, they spoke perfect French--except when they got very excited or angry. So I think the chances that your non-English speaking friends who travelled in France would speak French as well as any Frenchman, unless they were trying to say "F**k you!" (Many Americans know this expression in French; I could not make head not tail of the soundtrack that was thus translated!) |
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