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Strongly against the "Authentic" grade
Posted By: jay behrens
I think someone else mentioned this, but I like the idea of 'authentic' only being used for cards that are trimmed, altered, etc. that would not otherwise be graded by the company. If the card has been unaltered, then it should be graded, unless they are offering the authentic service at a cheaper rate, which I can't see happening since it seems it would entail about the same amount of work and overhead. |
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Strongly against the "Authentic" grade
Posted By: Plastic Dog
What about the hidden things that SGC notices when assigning grades (like ironed-out creases) that will be passed on to the unsuspecting buyer in an "Authentic Trimmed" purchase and never picked up without removing the slab? And what about rebacked Old Judges? If they get graded, do rebacked T-206s? Could make for some interesting new "Authentic" front/back combinations. |
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Strongly against the "Authentic" grade
Posted By: jay behrens
If a card is trimmed or altered in any way, if you follow true grading standards (at as I knew them back in the 80s), then it cannot be graded higher than poor and at that point a hidden wrinkle or other such defect doesn't really matter. I don't really envision 'authentic' as something that someone would be pursing if they are very condition concious. I have always bought my cards based on eye appeal and if it has a hidden wrinkle, that's no big deal to mean. If it is a major concern to someone then they need to stay away from 'authentic' cards. Even in the case of a really rare issue like 4 Base Hits or Yum Yum, I can't imagine that a hidden wrinkle is going to make that huge a difference on the price of card graded as 'authentic' that has been rebacked or altered in some other way. |
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Strongly against the "Authentic" grade
Posted By: Plastic Dog
an Authentic grade still makes it impossible to fully examine a card to see if there are problems above and beyond what is listed on the holder. What do you do, break it out and verify some problems (and risk not being able to return it), or do you put it away not knowing for sure? |
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Strongly against the "Authentic" grade
Posted By: Lee Behrens
I have to agree with my brother on this one, (that doesn't happen often. |
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Strongly against the "Authentic" grade
Posted By: HalleyGator
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Strongly against the "Authentic" grade
Posted By: Marc S.
Someone out there has faith in the population reports? |
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Strongly against the "Authentic" grade
Posted By: runscott
First of all, what's the purpose of authenticating? |
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Strongly against the "Authentic" grade
Posted By: Jay Miller
Hal---Why does it matter where your card ranks? If you have a nice card and you are happy with the way it looks, isn't that enough. Even if you had a card that was listed by PSA as the best known, does that mean that is the best copy in the hobby? Perhaps there is a better card graded by SGC, or GAI or NASA . More likely, there are better cards in vintage collections where the owners would never have the cards graded. I think the grading company population reports are of limited value for pre-1900 cards because so few of the cards are actually submitted. Having the best known PSA card may be no more than being the big fish in the little pond. |
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Strongly against the "Authentic" grade
Posted By: Plastic Dog
When SGC grades a card, I am pretty confident (though I have seen a Nodgrass, formerly Snodgrass, SGC-slabbed card recently which made me wretch) that SGC has verified that: |
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Strongly against the "Authentic" grade
Posted By: petecld
Population reports? Oh, come on now. |
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Strongly against the "Authentic" grade
Posted By: runscott
I wonder what percentage of slabbed cards get "un-slabbed"? I have a nice collection of t206 backs (SGC labels) that I may accidentally complete some day. |
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