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Posted By: Rob Dewolf
I received the following e-mail about a Babe Ruth card on which I'd placed a bid being withdrawn today. The thing I find interesting is the card was graded by SGC, so I wonder what details Mastro wasn't able to confirm? And there's a mention of authenticity, so does that mean the holder was tampered with but not noticed until the last day of the auction? I sent an e-mail but didn't receive a reply. To be clear: I'm not implying any wrongdoing by Mastro; I just find it curious. Here's the e-mail and below it a link to the lot: |
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Posted By: Matt
That's VERY concerning... |
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Posted By: Peter Calderon
There is nothing wrong with the Babe Ruth card in question. It is 100% real as SGC would have definitely caught any problem. This was my error. The single Ruth card offered in lot #1386 was not supposed to be sold as a single card, it was supposed to be included in lot #1024. Yes, lot #'s 1024 and 1386 are from the same consignor. We were alerted to the error today and I ended lot #1386. The Ruth card that WAS lot #1386 is now included in lot #1024 and an image of that same Ruth card has been added to our web site. |
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Posted By: Matt
If I am the seller, I am very ticked off! Theoretically Lot 1024 should go for a lot more then it will since it now has a huge card in it and no one knows about it. What would have been the big deal if they were sold as separate lots? |
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Posted By: Rob Dewolf
Thanks for the explanation. Peter, though I'm sure some will be sorry to read that this simply was an honest cataloging/bookkeeping mistake -- just as others will no doubt breathe a sigh of relief. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I am with Matt on this one....what would have been the harm in letting them stay as separate lots? Have you notified all the bidders of the Ruth that it is now a part of lot 1024? |
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Posted By: Brian
Seems like the email should have mentioned where the Ruth ended up. Instead it implies the Ruth is a questionable or even a bad card. |
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Posted By: Rob Dewolf
Matt, |
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Posted By: Matt
Rob I don't see where you read that in Peter - he said: |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Doesn't Peter say that a picture of the card was just now added to lot 1024? What is shown in the catalog...I'm at work so I don't have mine handy. |
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Posted By: Matt
the Ruth is not shown as part of 1024 in the catalog. |
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Posted By: Rob Dewolf
Take a look at lot 1024 (the lot that has the Ruth card included with it). |
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Posted By: Matt
I can't accept a proof from a web page that they control! |
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Posted By: Rand Brotman
I was a bidder on both lots, i noticed from day 1 that lot # 1024 included an sgc 40 Ruth. i also noticed the card on its own. my gut feeling told me the card may have been double listed, mainly due to the lack of scans on lot 1024. i was hoping to snag the lot under the radar. Mastro caught it in time and now has added scans and alerted everyone. With the thousands of cards they handle, its an honest mistake. |
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Posted By: Matt
Rand thanks for clarifying - it makes Peter's move much more reasonable, although he should have sent an email to those bidding on the Ruth letting them know where to find it. |
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Posted By: Peter Calderon
The Ruth card offered in lot #1024 and the Ruth card in lot #1386 refer to THE SAME CARD. There is only ONE Ruth card. How could we let both lots continue to run as is? Also, I have talked to the consignor about my error. He is fine with the way we handled this situation. |
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Posted By: Rob Dewolf
Well, Matt, I guess no one's really asking you to accept proof. I simply was pointing out why it seemed Mastro didn't add the Ruth to a lot with a few hours of the auction closing, thereby costing itself and a consignor money. |
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Posted By: Brian
<<With the thousands of cards they handle, its an honest mistake.>> |
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Posted By: Matt
Rob - if I was proposing a conspiracy theory then they would indeed need to have gained something, but I wasn't so there's no need to answer that one. Sometimes, some people, do silly things that cost others money. It happens. It turns out this isn't one of those cases. |
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Posted By: Rob Dewolf
I can't accept a proof from a web page that they control! |
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Posted By: Mark Evans
Great trivia question, Rob. I've passed it along to my brother (Rod) who has written several books comprising similar brain-teasers (e.g., longest one-syllable word: strengths). Mark |
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Posted By: Rob Dewolf
That bit of trivia was mentioned in the script of the 1976 TV mini-series Arthur Hailey's the Moneychangers. I was 13 years old when I heard it and never forgot it. That probably was a sign that I was destined to someday become a copy editor. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
Rob, |
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Posted By: Rob Dewolf
I promise to give due credit when I pass along that gem. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
If I may offer Mastro some good PR, I left a ceiling bid of around $5600+ on one of my lots before I went to bed, and won it for $3879, four increments below my max. For those who are terrified about leaving ceilings, it worked out just fine. And I got a great deal. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Hooray for Mastro for not shilling Barry on one of his lots! |
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Posted By: Scott S
I assume you also know that "typewriter" is the longest word using only the top row of keys. |
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Posted By: Rob Dewolf
Only if you don't count "quoteroperoptery" as word, you mean. |
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