OT: Could Alex Rodriguez qualify for Comeback Player of the Year?

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by glchen

Jhonny Peralta, Yasmany Grandal, and Ryan Braun all made the All Star game this year after serving lengthy suspensions for PED's. If ARod is the worst liar on PED's, then Ryan Braun is in the Top 5. I don't think you can single out ARod, and say he shouldn't be eligible for any awards and then give these other PED users a pass.

That's the problem Gary. I think A-Roid has been the one that has been made an example of which isn't a bad candidate. But Bonds shouldn't be brought up in Greatest of All-Time forum as a result of his use either.

McGwire fan always even though he cheated even though he admitted it (finally).

It's really just a weird situation. Steroids in general. If you have ever seen the documentary "Bigger Faster Stronger" it might change your opinion on them in general I know it changed mine. But still even though I think steroids ARE publicly and lawfully viewed as wrong I will say that they're not as harmful as they're made out to be. In a sense they're made out just as bad as pot used to be made out. Don't get me wrong there ARE side effects that are negative and probably a lot worse than pot but it's just a comparison.

I guess what i'm saying for me personally it's really hard. So many players did it. You can dislike players and use the steroid fact against them if you dislike them because they're a-holes like Bonds and A-Roid. But when it comes down to it they did physically do what they did when other people were also using as well.

Still a LOT of former PED users in the league right now and my team is no different. Jose Quintana, Adrien Nieto, Melky Cabrera, etc.

Hard to say it but if players are (silently banned) from the HOF for it then it's a NO NO. Otherwise you let the 8 men out back in.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

That's the problem Gary. I think A-Roid has been the one that has been made an example of which isn't a bad candidate. But Bonds shouldn't be brought up in Greatest of All-Time forum as a result of his use either.

McGwire fan always even though he cheated even though he admitted it (finally).

It's really just a weird situation. Steroids in general. If you have ever seen the documentary "Bigger Faster Stronger" it might change your opinion on them in general I know it changed mine. But still even though I think steroids ARE publicly and lawfully viewed as wrong I will say that they're not as harmful as they're made out to be. In a sense they're made out just as bad as pot used to be made out. Don't get me wrong there ARE side effects that are negative and probably a lot worse than pot but it's just a comparison.

I guess what i'm saying for me personally it's really hard. So many players did it. You can dislike players and use the steroid fact against them if you dislike them because they're a-holes like Bonds and A-Roid. But when it comes down to it they did physically do what they did when other people were also using as well.

Still a LOT of former PED users in the league right now and my team is no different. Jose Quintana, Adrien Nieto, Melky Cabrera, etc.

Hard to say it but if players are (silently banned) from the HOF for it then it's a NO NO. Otherwise you let the 8 men out back in.

It's been said more than once: if you took a whole bottle of aspirin, caffeine pills or steroids, the only one that wouldn't kill you would be the steroids. That having been said, anyone who thinks PEDs are gone from the game is not living in the real world. None of the Biogenics players ever tested positive for any banned substance, and very few 39 year-old's have ever hit 30+ HR's.

Comeback player of the year? Not by my vote.

Larry

[Peter_Spaeth]

Yeah when you lie and lie and lie, nobody believes you even when you're telling the truth. I wouldn't place big bucks on ARod being clean, given his history, and his obsession with achievement at any price.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah when you lie and lie and lie, nobody believes you even when you're telling the truth. I wouldn't place big bucks on ARod being clean, given his history, and his obsession with achievement at any price.

This. Why on earth would anyone believe a word he has to say. He may be as clean as snow, however he has abdicated any benefit of the doubt.