WW3 Please SAY NO!

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by irv

And, just like I thought. Lots of North American interest in regards to Putin and the Ukraine.
What he says about Chrystia Freeland is 100% true. She was seen with this group holding this flag.
(Watch the Jimmy Dore vid below. You'll learn something)
https://youtu.be/KfaAyiP8Wuc
https://tnc.news/2022/03/03/national...stia-freeland/

Why do you continue to trust Jimmy Dore?

[irv]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Why do you continue to trust Jimmy Dore?

You didn't watch the video, did you? No need to answer. I know from the time you posted you practically had zero chance to.

Almost everything he broadcasts uses media sources, govt documents or first hand testimony as the focus of each show. Kinda like real journalists should do. Pretty pathetic that a comedian is putting the boots to MSM networks.
Why doesn't CNN or MSNBC invite him to their shows? Fox does. What are the others afraid of?

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by irv

You didn't watch the video, did you? No need to answer. I know from the time you posted you practically had zero chance to.

Almost everything he broadcasts uses media sources, govt documents or first hand testimony as the focus of each show. Kinda like real journalists should do. Pretty pathetic that a comedian is putting the boots to MSM networks.
Why doesn't CNN or MSNBC invite him to their shows? Fox does. What are the others afraid of?

On the last long thread, you posted a Fox News clip from Facebook. We can agree to disagree, but Facebook? Fox news?? Not exactly where one goes to for "truth."

[irv]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

On the last long thread, you posted a Fox News clip from Facebook. We can agree to disagree, but Facebook? Fox news?? Not exactly where one goes to for "truth."

In that other thread you said you didn't watch MSM for your news so where exactly do you get yours from?
Don't like Fox, FB nor Jimmy Dore by the sounds of it so where do you, exactly, get your news from? Just listen to other people who share the same views as yours and call it a day?

[irv]

https://newtube.app/user/RenaudBe/qYO6PUS

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by irv

In that other thread you said you didn't watch MSM for your news so where exactly do you get yours from?
Don't like Fox, FB nor Jimmy Dore by the sounds of it so where do you, exactly, get your news from? Just listen to other people who share the same views as yours and call it a day?

Are you actually watching or listening to any of the dastardly "MSM", or are you just watching FOX News try to convince you that's what they aren't.

BTW the acronym "MSM" repeated over and over again, is just a devious way of dismissing any semblance of a free press.

[irv]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Are you actually watching or listening to any of the dastardly "MSM", or are you just watching FOX News try to convince you that's what they aren't.

BTW the acronym "MSM" repeated over and over again, is just a devious way of dismissing any semblance of a free press.

No, I don't watch Fox news either even though they are, by far, imo, less biased and partisan than CNN or MSNBC.

CNN's and MSNBC's ratings have plummeted lately and I attribute that to people finally waking up and realizing they are just Liberal propaganda sites anymore that spread nothing but lies and fake news.
FOX news, for what's it's worth, is leading the charge now with MSM ratings, but many, like the vids I have posted, are turning to the likes of Jimmy Dore and Joe Rogan, to name just a couple.

MSM, btw, is the acronym for Main Stream Media. I wouldn't necessarily lump all other Free Press entities in with them as they clearly aren't Main Stream, imo.

[irv]

LOL.

Maybe I should watch more MSM?
https://newtube.app/user/Fredyatelmstreet13/YkKq1pf

[BCauley]

Originally Posted by irv

No, I don't watch Fox news either even though they are, by far, imo, less biased and partisan than CNN or MSNBC.

If you don't watch Fox News, then how can you say they are less biased and partisan?

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by irv

No, I don't watch Fox news either even though they are, by far, imo, less biased and partisan than CNN or MSNBC.

CNN's and MSNBC's ratings have plummeted lately and I attribute that to people finally waking up and realizing they are just Liberal propaganda sites anymore that spread nothing but lies and fake news.
FOX news, for what's it's worth, is leading the charge now with MSM ratings, but many, like the vids I have posted, are turning to the likes of Jimmy Dore and Joe Rogan, to name just a couple.

MSM, btw, is the acronym for Main Stream Media. I wouldn't necessarily lump all other Free Press entities in with them as they clearly aren't Main Stream, imo.

Hey, just want to let you know your not alone out here. Most people don't realize that the news they watch is corporate media, not truly independent media. Regarding the entire Ukraine thing, most people are unaware of what the U.S. promised Russia about NATO after the latter agreed to the unification of Germany. Russia has warned the U.S. about Ukraine for years now and their warnings have been completely ignored despite the U.S. also being warned by many Russian scholars and former ambassadors to Russia.

To espouse this viewpoint doesn't mean that one is a Russian asset or that they support the war. It just means you're educated and know why the crisis is occurring. It's very hard to have rational conversations with people on the subject who don't know any of the background.

Btw, Dore is excellent and has on excellent and truly informed people like Glenn Greewald, Max Blumenthal, etc.

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by irv

In that other thread you said you didn't watch MSM for your news so where exactly do you get yours from?
Don't like Fox, FB nor Jimmy Dore by the sounds of it so where do you, exactly, get your news from?

Facebook is a great place to get news:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fake-cnn-...212045365.html

Originally Posted by irv

Just listen to other people who share the same views as yours and call it a day?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

[gawaintheknight]

I would like to point out that in the eyes of many commentators the whole question of NATO expanding east is a red herring, or at least not the most important part of the story. Putin believes that Ukraine should be part of Russia. He says so himself, more than once.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...pt-february-22

Here's a quote from his speech just before the invasion:

“Ukraine is not just a neighboring country for us. It is an inalienable part of our own history, culture and spiritual space,” he said, per the Kremlin’s official translation. “Since time immemorial, the people living in the south-west of what has historically been Russian land have called themselves Russians.”

Ted

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by gawaintheknight

I would like to point out that in the eyes of many commentators the whole question of NATO expanding east is a red herring, or at least not the most important part of the story. Putin believes that Ukraine should be part of Russia. He says so himself, more than once.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...pt-february-22

Here's a quote from his speech just before the invasion:

“Ukraine is not just a neighboring country for us. It is an inalienable part of our own history, culture and spiritual space,” he said, per the Kremlin’s official translation. “Since time immemorial, the people living in the south-west of what has historically been Russian land have called themselves Russians.”



Ted

Yep, I 100% agree.