Do you consider this to be a fraudulent listing by Heritage?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

Well, they are using phrases like this:

"Encapsulated PSA Authentic with a blue marker signature that is certified PSA/DNA Authentic Auto."

So that seems to be saying more than one thing has been authenticated.

And they also say:

"...there are still a small number of O-Pee-Chee brand unopened packs available and ours is set apart from others for two reasons..."

That pretty clearly says this is an O-Pee-Chee brand unopened pack to me.

I see your point. It's certainly one confusing, screwed up listing (and flip) and I have no clue why PSA would get involved with this.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I see your point. It's certainly one confusing, screwed up listing (and flip) and I have no clue why PSA would get involved with this.

The creator of this mess basically cornered into 1 of 2 crap options by doing the silly sticker thing.

A. Grade pack as sealed but a 1 due to the pack being essentially damaged by a sticker which is now uncertified.
B. Grade the auto only as an affixed cut basically.

Just plain stupid.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by JustinD

The creator of this mess basically cornered into 1 of 2 crap options by doing the silly sticker thing.

A. Grade pack as sealed but a 1 due to the pack being essentially damaged by a sticker which is now uncertified.
B. Grade the auto only as an affixed cut basically.

Just plain stupid.

Is there a way to read the auction as Heritage independently representing the pack is sealed, from its own assessment? If that's the case, maybe we're back to stupid and confusing but not fraudulent?

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Is there a way to read the auction as Heritage independently representing the pack is sealed, from its own assessment? If that's the case, maybe we're back to stupid and confusing but not fraudulent?

Yeah, it is only Heritage saying it's an unopened pack...and if that was their actual evaluation and assessment it should be more clearly stated. But someone, the consigner, is producing these in a quantity (3 so far that I've seen) that you would not realistically expect to see all at once 40+ years after original production.