T-206 Master List vs. Inaccurate PSA Master Set

[Rob D.]

JP,

Keep fighting the good fight. And by all means, keep posting. Please!

Edited to add: No "hijacking" intended.

[JP]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

JP,

Keep fighting the good fight. And by all means, keep posting. Please!

Edited to add: No "hijacking" intended.

Just making a suggestion to help improve the options available to collectors within the hobby...

No idea if you're being serious...but I will always do whatever I can to become further educated, and help others further their collections through knowledge and resources. If I get mocked, then so be it.

If you're being serious, thanks.

[usernamealreadytaken]

You know, for some, posting on this forum is like being the wizard of OZ...can talk big and bad and rude...but why do you?

[ullmandds]

Joe...well spoken...and I agree!

[tedzan]

I share my BB card knowledge with as many as I can. I am not "belittling" (to use your wording) you by asking this very basic and
straightforward question......

HOW MANY T206's DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR COLLECTION ?

JIM R (and others) asked you a very basic and straightforward question in your other thread regarding your three BROAD LEAF 460
cards and you refused to answer that one, too.

Do you understand how your responses (or none responses) are starting to grate against us, who are trying to have a dialogue with
you ?

Get that damn "chip off your shoulder" and try to be friendly....and, you'll see that some of us will reciprocate.


TED Z

[barrysloate]

That's a fair point...if JP just listed the BL460's we would have saved a lot of grief. The question wasn't sarcastic, people on this board checklist every T206 back and there was the potential for a new addition. So I agree JP should have just answered the question.

[JP]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

That's a fair point...if JP just listed the BL460's we would have saved a lot of grief. The question wasn't sarcastic, people on this board checklist every T206 back and there was the potential for a new addition. So I agree JP should have just answered the question.

Barry, information was being held hostage until I disclosed which BL460s I owned...even though it wasn't relevant to MY thread. I'm under no obligation to share what I own or what I have owned. I'm aware of the Ted Z checklist of BL460s and none of mine were unknowns.

[barrysloate]

JP- you have the right to keep your collection private. But if that is your wish, it's wrong to come onto a thread with the juicy detail that you know about three BL460, something this board would love to have details of, and then say it's private. If I were you I wouldn't have even brought it up.

[barrysloate]

Leon- that was my implied point. If JP claims to know of three rare cards, but won't disclose them, the board of course won't believe him. I didn't either. But now he says he wants to keep it private, and my response was he never should have brought it up (and there was the slight possibility he was being truthful, and I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt).

[Abravefan11]

Jim - I wasn't talking about you in regards to this thread.

There is a lot wrong with both sides here.

I agree if you're going to post a question regarding a hobby problem you should care enough to want to do something about it as several people (including me) suggested. When people do respond with ideas calling them "worthless" is not the way to win favor.

I think debate is the pathway to knowledge, but in many cases these threads are reduced to playground name calling and that doesn't accomplish anything.

[tedzan]

Once again, someone (you in this case) steps in here and criticizes me without being aware of the entire story.
I have had past misunderstandings with this guy "JP". At first I was very generous with him by sharing my T206
expertise. After a while he became a nuisance with recurring PM's. Even, after I stopped replying to them. He
started again today with his PM's, so I blocked them.

Do you understand now, Dan ?

What bothers me in this instance is that he (and sometimes others) view the Graded Company's data and they
think that this is "the real world" of BB card collecting.
And, this is so far removed from the truth. I think that you can agree with that statement ?

Regards,

TED Z

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by tedzan

What bothers me in this instance is that he (and sometimes others) view the Graded Company's data and they think that this is "the real world" of BB card collecting.

Ted, Regardless is your past history with JP his initial post said nothing about TPGed cards being "the real world."

He simply asked why when it was common knowledge to many on this board through your and Scot Reader's work that their registry could be so far from something accurate.

Then in your first post you added "So, try to get your facts straight before you post."

How is that not combative?

And if there was a history and you feel the need to igonore his PM's than why not his threads as well?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Once again, someone (you in this case) steps in here and criticizes me without being aware of the entire story.
I have had past misunderstandings with this guy "JP". At first I was very generous with him by sharing my T206
expertise. After a while he became a nuisance with recurring PM's. Even, after I stopped replying to them. He
started again today with his PM's, so I blocked them.

Do you understand now, Dan ?

What bothers me in this instance is that he (and sometimes others) view the Graded Company's data and they
think that this is "the real world" of BB card collecting.
And, this is so far removed from the truth. I think that you can agree with that statement ?

Regards,

TED Z

Ted, you misunderstood JP's original post and attacked him for something he wasn't even arguing. It should have been clear to you on a second read of the post. I have no idea what goes on in PM's on this site (contrary to the warped views of a few paranoid individuals). So if you have problems with JP I'd suggest putting him in your ignore list. I'd be happy to let you know how to do that if you don't already know.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

That's a fair point...if JP just listed the BL460's we would have saved a lot of grief. The question wasn't sarcastic, people on this board checklist every T206 back and there was the potential for a new addition. So I agree JP should have just answered the question.

Sorry about this Barry but I will call bullcrap on that one. The reason he was being questioned is because people weren't believing him. Lets at least keep it real. You are still one of my favorite guys ..regards

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

So I agree JP should have just answered the question.

The simple solution doesn't always make it the right solution.

I agree that if JP just posted the 3 BL460's that would have been the end of it. But was his past or present card holdings relevant to the discussion?

I know why Jim R (Hey Jim ) wanted the information, but in withholding his response to JP's initial post until he got it may not have been the way to go about getting it either.

Many collectors don't like to discuss their collections publicly. Or if they do, only the parts they wish to discuss.

[tedzan]

In your Post # 47 you stated.......
" Your inquiry as to how many t-206s I have was immediately following your statement that you own thousands.
I know exactly why you asked that question, and so do you. "

OK, so now you can read our minds....and, you know exactly why I asked that question ? You amaze me, but you
are not as intuitive as you think you are.

You are totally off-base in attempting to read my mind. I was interested in having a reasonable discussion with you
on the topic you initiated here...."T206 master set".

As, this topic has always intrigued me. But, you blew it with your apparent paranoia to anything asked of you. Fur-
thermore, you twist the discussion around and become combative.

This is not the way conversations are conducted on in this forum.


TED Z

[slidekellyslide]

Ted, you attacked JP in your very first reply in this thread. It was pretty clear to me that JP was referencing the PSA registry and not non-graded collectors. I understand that many of you guys are upset at JP for certain things that irritate you, but you don't need to bring them to every post he makes. If someone irritates you that much you need to start using the ignore button if you can't help but reply negatively to everything posted.

[cfc1909]

I wanted to know what 3 BL 460s because that would have mattered in my response.
I do not attack anyone-I stay away from the negative threads.
I share my information and my collection and would have had a great answer and it would have been a great thread.

I am close to not posting anymore. I like hanging out here and sharing my information but this is getting to be a bit much.

I would not have asked about the 3 BLs if they were not mentioned-and it matters so I can answer accurately.

maybe I could have asked better but I have a pretty good rep for being easy.

[JP]

I'm sorry if you think it devious or suspect or rude or whatever for me to not share the details of my collection. Every registry I have with PSA and SGC is private. The details of my collection are private. And in neither instance is what I own relevant, so I don't see why it has become an issue.

Your inquiry as to how many t-206s I have was immediately following your statement that you own thousands. I know exactly why you asked that question, and so do you.