Question About Grading Turkey Reds

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Posted By: Addie_Joss

I have a T3 Hal Chase that I want to get graded. The problem is, someone in the past 100 years at one time had it taped to something. On the back of the card there are 2 less than 1/16th of an inch spots of paper loss. The spots are less than the length of a dime and about as thick as a third of a chicklet. So in the end there is still about 99.99 percent of the back left. My question is, do grading companies take into consideration the size of the card in respect to the amount of paper loss or will I automatically be given a 2? If not for the paper loss I'd be looking at a 4 or 4.5 easily. If this amount of paper loss was on say a t206 I'd understand the automatic 2, but I don't really think the same applies when talking about a Turkey Red.

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Posted By: Mark

I believe I have seen T3s graded higher than 2 with paper loss. I think they would indeed take into account, the minute amount of paper loss in relation to the overall size of the card.

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Posted By: Paul

I have noticed that PSA & SGC seem to be more forgiving of defects on cabinet cards. PSA more than SGC. I have a PSA 4 T3 with the same type/size paperloss you described. SGC is not as forgiving, but have seen some SGC graded JKA cabinets that were graded higher than non cabinet cards would be. PSA can be more inconsistent than SGC IMHO, so no guarantees.

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Posted By: Addie_Joss

I was hoping they would take the size of the card into consideration. BVG just graded a Mathewson White Cap I had a 3 with a speck of loss on the front so I was hoping my Turkey Red could dodge a bullet. I'd love it to get a 4 but a 2 for .0001 percent of overall paper loss is rough.