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Posted By: Robert Plancich
In the recently completed "Important Baseball Memorabilia" auction that was hosted by Sotheby's and Sports Cards Plus there was A Sandy Koufax 1963 Game-Used Glove that sold for $126,500.00 (including Buyer's Premium) - Lot #108. According to the lot description "The glove is a Spalding Frank Bolling model 42-212. Koufax's uniform number "32" is written on the thumb and pinky in vintage marker. A faint Koufax signature is also visible on the pinky, covered by a clear protective coating. Its impeccable provenance includes numerous photographs, including one of Koufax on the mound during the May 11, 1963 no-hitter, showing him wearing this very glove with the scoreboard visible in the background. A separate posed photograph of Koufax wearing the glove is detailed enough to match the model number and markings in the palm." The glove was authenticated By Messrs. Bushing & Knoll/SCDA as being authentic. |
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Posted By: PASJD
Robert, are you going to warn folks about items in upcoming auctions as well? |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
I don't know about anyone else... but I am enjoying the exposes. |
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Posted By: Jay Miller
Bob Lemke--you are the voice of SCD, at least on this forum. How about some comments from you on these attacks on your company's grading service. |
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Posted By: Josh A.
This is a valuable service you are providing. It is important to expose the frauds and misdeeds of those who bring the hobby down. |
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Posted By: Jay Miller
Josh--I think you have it backwards--it is good to have direct evidence before you expose something. |
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Posted By: Josh A.
That's what I meant!! Sorry.... doing several things at once, and this caught my eye! <br /> (I'm an attorney, I should get this) |
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Posted By: prewarsports
Has anyone ever heard anything about all of those 19th century uniforms that were sold in the Halper sale? They all came from one guy, and it is not like he had tons of them, maybe 20, but every time this guy would find a uniform it was of a huge name. |
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Posted By: Jay Miller
Rhys--Prior to the Halper auction weren't some of the vintage jerseys found to be no good? |
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Posted By: hankron
I am no baseball glove or bat expert and could not authenticate a Sandy Koufax game used glove if my butt was on fire (not sure how my butt being on fire would help one way or the other, though), but I would want more evidence presented that this glove is not legitimate. Bushing/Knoll/SportscardsPlus/Sotheby's have represented this glove as genuine. Yes, they have made mistakes, but, before I overturned their opinion, I would want more information than the smallish auction pictures of the glove show it doesn't have much wear. |
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Posted By: Bob Lemke
Jay, don't try to drag me into this. I have zero connection with SCD Authentic. In fact, my only official connection with SCD is as a columnist. I am employed by Krause Publications, a division of F+W Publications, as editor of Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards. Period. |
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Posted By: Judge Dred
Bob, |
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Posted By: Jay Miller
Sorry Bob. One time when I made a nasty comment about SCD's card grading service you stepped forward to defend them so I thought that you might also stand up for these guys. |
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Posted By: Joe P.
So goes "The Days Of Our Lives." |
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Posted By: Anonymous
Hankron raises some excellent questions. I was at the auction, examined the glove, reviewed their files on the glove, and asked SportcardsPlus and Sotheby's for more evidence that this glove was in fact the same glove as used in Koufax's no-hitter. If so, I would have been a happy bidder. The problem was that the pictures they had were not clear enough to see that it was in fact the same glove, or for that matter even a Spalding model glove. In addition, the glove did not appear (to me) to have any game use on it. I have a hard time believing Koufax took the mound with an almost new glove, pitched a no-hitter, and then gave the glove away right after the game. More likely, he reached in to his locker and gave a friend a different glove, not one of his gamers. Seems more logical. However, I think that the author of this thread has gone too far in claiming the glove cannot possibly be the one used in Koufax's no-hitter. I could understand his statements if the glove could be determined not to be from 1963, but he can't say that because it is from that year. While I wouldn't spend my auction $$ on it because of the lack of use, that doesn't mean it couldn't be his no-hitter glove. The only way anyone will know for sure is if a clear picture can be found showing Koufax during or right after the game with the identical glove, where the markings match up exactly. I doubt Mr. Koufax will ever make a public statement about the glove, even if he knew it was, or wasn't, legitimate. I also think Robert Plancich's last statement regarding value is baseless since there are no other Koufax glove auction sales to compare this one to. The buyer and other bidders may be happy getting any Koufax glove, since there has never been another on the auction market. |
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Posted By: hankron
Firstly, I don't know how the SCD LOA represents the glove, so I am not commenting on anyone's LOA. |
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Posted By: hankron
Whether from Mike Gutierrez or Lelands or PSA/DNA, a letter of authenticy almost never says "This is 100 percent authentic." The LOAs say something like "We have examined the whatever and in our opnion it is genuine" or "these autographs are consistant with the exemplars in our library." Obviously, they would not give out an LOA if they didn't beleive it to be genuine, but they are writing down their opinions. |
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Posted By: Joe P.
Now back to: |
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