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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: bruce Dorskind
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Paul
I still see plenty high grade 1915 CJs. Not sure about the others. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Rob D.
Not only are ultra-high-grade cards tough to find, but when they do turn up, they're often of Pittsburgh Pirates. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Matt
Perhaps the initial wave brought on by grading companies has subsided and the buyers of those cards want to keep them. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: barrysloate
I think when collectors buy very high grade material, they are likely to hang on to it a while because it might be impossible to replace, especially a low pop. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Bob
Bruce- It seems like high grade cards have found their way in to collections now and will stay there for quite a while. I think more and more cards are "being taken out of circulation" as collectors buy and wait. You still see some nice cards for sale but they are often cards which have been "upgraded" by still nicer ones. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: leon
With all due respect when they do come out do you bid on them? I know I will be auctioning off a few ultra high grade vintage cards in the near future. I expect you will be bidding to win ...Remember, you have to pay up for the best cards. But in the long run the best stuff does the best....For the most part I won't collect high grade cards due to the lack of provenance and high prices.........regards |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Paul
Maybe some "group" of collectors has horded them all |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: barrysloate
Hey Leon- three posts all at 11:18! (and it's "due to"). |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: MVSNYC
i feel like this topic has been covered a million times, but here goes again... |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Paul
I think Michael (I think your Michael, right? I just know you as the person who has one of my favorit Cobbs!!) has hit the nail on the head. What other possible explanation could there be? |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: CoreyRS.hanus
1. Not sure if it is so much that there are fewer ultra high grade cards offered, but instead that they are more and more finding themselves in certain auctions. I always thought to an informed person eBay was a dumb way to sell such stuff, and maybe sellers are more educated now how best to sell such cards. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: barrysloate
Michael is correct, but his answer is not complete. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Jay
I think you both used the word "penultimate" incorrectly |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: barrysloate
Jay is correct. Penultimate means "next to last." |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Jeff Prizner
"2. Prices of many of them have sagged and maybe sellers are sitting it out until the market firms." |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: MVSNYC
paul- i am michael...but i do not currently own any cobb cards. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: DD
We feel there are a cadre of other words that could have replaced penultimate. The truculence of the initial poster, however, precludes corrections and suggestions in his vitriolic posts, whether the point being made is accurate or not. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Alan
There's a guy who spends $5 million per year on ultra high grade cards. I wonder if he has them all. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: boxingcardman
"More than 25 a young kid named Billy Mastro advised us that it is never difficult to "sell high grade cards" but nearly impossible to buy them." |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: barrysloate
A faith healer with appendicitis. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Ricky Y
As the economy begins to look sunny again...they'll appear for sale at a profit. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Brian
Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone? |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: steve
You could come up with a few theories as to why, but a higher percentage of the "good stuff" is being held. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Jason L
Surely, there will be more coming out to market shortly. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Joe D.
if you are investigating this issue of 'Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?'.... |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Jeff S.
Not ultra high-grade, but apparently higher grades come to those who crack and resubmit. I got the 70 back 4 months ago, sold it, now it's being offered at an 80 on Ebay for roughly double my price. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Cobby33
Maybe because nobody can (or wants to) afford these overpriced specimens in this market, thus, people are not selling them for what they paid or believe they are worth. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: davidcycleback
"Surely, there will be more coming out to market shortly." |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: DD
Jeff, |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: leon
I see the same things you do....less staining and stronger upper right corner....at least it appears that way to me..... |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Jason L
There is nothing more frustrating than a genius misundertood! |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I think Cobby up there is close to right. I've heard a few folks whine when selling something, when it wouldn't sell for what they'd paid. Maybe they paid too much. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Joe D.
looks like a difference in scans to me. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Jeff S.
The corner looks a little stronger to me, but I think the decrease in stains may be due to a softer scan. There's a slight diamond cut to my original - the 80 looked slightly less, but I put it up on Photoshop with horizontal grids and it seemed to be the same. PS - it's currently offered by a banner advertiser. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: MVSNYC
in the first scan there is smchutz to the left of his glove...in the second scan it's gonzo |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Joe D.
"PS - it's currently offered by a banner advertiser." |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Jeff S.
The first is the 70, 2nd is the 80. Mike I didn't even notice the mark missing to the left of his glove - unless it's the scan? |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: John
The Market is soft nothing more nothing less, PSA 7 and above T206’s for example are selling for less when they go up for sale as compared to many months ago. The few that do go up are going up with BIN that equal past prices not current prices and therefore don’t sell. Higher grade cards that are left to sell on straight bids are shifting down, now’s a great time to buy but a bad time to sell, especially tougher items, most folks are hanging on until a spring back unless your willing to pay last years prices. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Zinn
I believe Bruce correctly used the word "penultimate" as he was, as I saw it, referring to "second tier" collectors rather than the whales who have all the money in the world to acquire what they want. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: barrysloate
John- the print on the back of the Lowdermilk looks brown. Is it, or is it just the scan? |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: John
It's a faded black Barry that scan just makes it look brown... |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: barrysloate
Thought you landed a new find. It's interesting because there has always been some debate about brown vs. black Lenox, and brown T207's. Some people say the brown text is just faded black, others insist there is a distinct color difference. Your Lowdermilk is another example of it, because it sure looks brown in the scan. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: brian
"Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone? |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Zinn
George Dreer(sic)Dreyer: |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Charlie Barokas
Mike, |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: boxingcardman
“Surely, there will be more coming out to market shortly. Card doctors can experience inventory shortages, shipping delays, and fall behind like any other suppliers.” |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: brianp
They are all being processed and upwardly envigorated in the various Dr. Frankencard's labs across the nation to be eventually entombed forever for frenzied consumption by the ultra high graded card junkies who only come out out at night for impossibly razor sharp corners and bleached white borders. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Bob
John- Your purchase of the T207 Ward Miller for the sale price is the best buy I have seen over the last 2 years. Incredible! That is a much, much tougher card than Loudermilk, Lewis or any of the other "biggies" in the set and a "6" is mind-blowing. Congrats. |
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Where Have All The Ultra High Grade Cards Gone?
Posted By: Bruce Babcock
To echo tbob, a great deal on the Ward Miller. The nicest I've seen and a great price. |
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