One T206, Two Names

[benge610]

Thought I would throw in a curve ball.
My son's T206 Powers.
My T206, "Wickey McAvoy", Powers.

[Pat R]

I just picked up a two name Southern Leaguer and coincidently it's the same as the only other two name Southern League card in this thread but with a different back a Piedmont Miller-Orth.
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Updated list with the most recent updates in blue.

American Beauty 350 framed
Hinchman, H. - Taylor

Cycle 350
Beck - Unglaub

El Principe De Gales
Young - Rucker
Stovall (port.) - Lajoie (throwing)

Old Mill (Baseball Series)
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)

Old Mill (Southern League)
Miller - Orth

Piedmont 150
Beaumont - Seymour
Bender (port.) - Delehanty (Wash.)
Bergen (bat) - Dooin
Brown, M (port.) - Magee (port.)
Bradley (port.) - Bender (port.)
Dahlen (Boston) - Wagner (Boston)
Devlin - Schulte (front view)
Hinchman, B. - Stovall (port.)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Johnson (port.) - Schlei (catching)
Joss (port) - Criss
Konetchy - Jennings (port.)
Killian (pitching) - Chance (red port.)
Lindaman - Bresnahan (port.)
Lundgren (Cubs) - Doolin
Lundgren (Cubs) - Ball (New York)
Manning (batting) - Flick
Pastorius - Lake (NY, throw)
Powell (horizontal) - O'Leary (port.)
Rucker - Young?
Shipke - Griffith
Spade - Cicotte
Walsh - Seymour (batting)

Piedmont 350
Abbaticchio (brown) - Cicotte
Atz - Hoffman (Providence)
Butler - Raymond
Chance (yellow port.) - Feine (?)
Chase (blue port.) - Zimmerman
Chase (White Cap) - Jacklitsch
Delehanty (Wash.) - Waddell (port.)
Egan - Warhop
Elberfeld (NY port.) - Parent
Engle - Phillippe
Ganzel - Downs
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)
Herzog (NY) - Ritchey
Hoblitzell - Stephens
Hunter - Quinn
Jackson - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Livingstone - Maloney
Marquard (port) - Cree
McElveen - Dygert
McGinley - Speaker
McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro
McIntyre (Detroit) - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Moran, H. - Arrellanes
Oakes - Easterly
Rossman - McBride
Schmidt - Starr
Shaw - Chappelle
Snodgrass (batting) - Maddox
Turner - Lobert
Turner - O'Leary
Walsh - Brown, M (port.)

Piedmont 350 SL
Miller-Orth

Sweet Caporal 150-25
Manning-Flick

Sweet Caporal 350-25
Lennox - Clancy

Sweet Caporal 350-30
Barbeau - Strang
Graham (St. Louis) - Clark (Columbus)
Graham (Boston) - Burns
Killian (port.) - Dubuc
McGlynn - Jones (Detroit)
Rossman - Thomas
Schmidt (Portrait) - Sweeney (Bill)
Wagner, Heinie (left shoulder) - Schlei (catching)

Sweet Caporal - factory number unknown
Bowerman - Chance (front ?)
McGraw (front ?) - Hayden
Pickering - Myers (front )

The rest - back information unknown or damaged
Bresnahan (port.) - Doolin
Criger - Ritchey
Keeler (front ?) - McGraw (front ?)
Walsh - Lumley Piedmont (back damage - no series number)[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

[stutor]

I’m not certain if this helps as Manning with Flick up top is listed under P150. I have that in SC 150 25 as well.

[stutor]

My photos always post so small...I’m sure there’s an easy way to solve that problem. Here is a closer view...

[Luke]

Just got this one. It's listed already but I didn't see a scan so figured I'd add it. It might already be here and I missed it.

Shaw - Chappelle P350

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by stutor

I’m not certain if this helps as Manning with Flick up top is listed under P150. I have that in SC 150 25 as well.

Thanks Sonny, it has been added to the list that's the first confirmed Sweet Caporal 150 series.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Luke

Just got this one. It's listed already but I didn't see a scan so figured I'd add it. It might already be here and I missed it.

Shaw - Chappelle P350

Thanks Luke, these two names are a great help in the research.

[Pat R]

I found a scan of this Ambruster Broad Leaf 350 with a name at top.
It's a blurry scan and I can't tell who's name is on the top but it'd definitely not Armbruster maybe someone else can tell who it is.

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[stutor]

Here is a new one...Piedmont 350 Matty with Dunn Baltimore up top. It’s even better because I recently bought a t213-2 Matty with the same double. I’ll let the experts decide if that’s significant or mere coincidence.

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by stutor

Here is a new one...Piedmont 350 Matty with Dunn Baltimore up top. It’s even better because I recently bought a t213-2 Matty with the same double. I’ll let the experts decide if that’s significant or mere coincidence.

I’ve been away for a while, but I’d call that significant! Two separate series with the same layout. Wow!

[Brian Weisner]

Hey Sonny,
Love those Marty’s… I’m not surprised that the T213-2 Coupon has the same player layout, as the ALC used 350 and 460 series poses in the set. This is more evidence that no matter how you break up the sets during this time period, one thing remains consistent, the ALC printed them all.

Be well Brian 🍻

[Pat R]

A couple of new PD150 two name cards an Evers (portrait) - Chance (portrait red) and a Steinfeldt (portrait) - Kling

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[pete zouras]

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[nineunder71]

Pat,
Well Done, your research never fails to amaze me. How many different ‘two name’ examples do you know of now? Different name examples, of course.

And, what inferences, if any, can you make at this time regarding original sheet alignment and how these occurred?

Keep up the good work, talk soon

C

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by Pat R

A couple of new PD150 two name cards an Evers (portrait) - Chance (portrait red) and a Steinfeldt (portrait) - Kling

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Pat, did you win the Evers? I was the underbidder and couldn't read the top name or I would have bid more. Great card.

[atx840]

I started to track these but haven't updated it in 5+ years. Noted that Chance red portrait is above Evers and Killian.

[chlankf]

This post got me looking through my T206s. Found one with a sliver showing another name on the top of PB Nattress. Name on top of Nattress card is different than his name. Does anyone know who's name? I also found a Hoffman Pied/350 with name on top.

[atx840]

Thanks for checking and sharing Craig. I think its Nattress on top.

[Pat R]

Here's the updated list you can get an idea how much some of the the sheets changed by some of the different two names with the same subjects like the new Piedmont 150 Evers - Chance (red port.) there's also a confirmed Piedmont 150 Killian (pitching) with a Chance (red port.) but you also have both a Piedmont 150 and a piedmont 350 of Jennings (port) - Jordan (port) my guess is the Piedmont 150 example was printed in the last stage of the 150 printing right before they changed over to the print group 1 350 printing we know that Jennings was a late addition to print group 1.

American Beauty 350 framed
Hinchman, H. - Taylor

Cycle 350
Beck - Unglaub

El Principe De Gales
Young - Rucker
Stovall (port.) - Lajoie (throwing)

Old Mill (Baseball Series)
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)

Old Mill (Southern League)
Miller - Orth

Piedmont 150
Beaumont - Seymour
Bender (port.) - Delehanty (Wash.)
Bergen (bat) - Dooin
Brown, M (port.) - Magee (port.)
Bradley (port.) - Bender (port.)
Dahlen (Boston) - Wagner (Boston)
Devlin - Schulte (front view)
Evers (port.) - Chance (red port.)
Hinchman, B. - Stovall (port.)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Johnson (port.) - Schlei (catching)
Joss (port) - Criss
Konetchy - Jennings (port.)
Killian (pitching) - Chance (red port.)
Lindaman - Bresnahan (port.)
Lundgren (Cubs) - Doolin
Lundgren (Cubs) - Ball (New York)
Manning (batting) - Flick
Pastorius - Lake (NY, throw)
Powell (horizontal) - O'Leary (port.)
Rucker - Young?
Shipke - Griffith
Spade - Cicotte
Steinfeldt (port.) - Kling
Walsh - Seymour (batting)

Piedmont 350
Abbaticchio (brown) - Cicotte
Atz - Hoffman (Providence)
Butler - Raymond
Chance (yellow port.) - Feine (?)
Chase (blue port.) - Zimmerman
Chase (White Cap) - Jacklitsch
Delehanty (Wash.) - Waddell (port.)
Egan - Warhop
Elberfeld (NY port.) - Parent
Engle - Phillippe
Ganzel - Downs
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)
Herzog (NY) - Ritchey
Hoblitzell - Stephens
Hunter - Quinn
Jackson - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Livingstone - Maloney
Marquard (port) - Cree
McElveen - Dygert
McGinley - Speaker
McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro
McIntyre (Detroit) - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Moran, H. - Arrellanes
Oakes - Easterly
Rossman - McBride
Schmidt - Starr
Shaw - Chappelle
Snodgrass (batting) - Maddox
Turner - Lobert
Turner - O'Leary
Walsh - Brown, M (port.)

Piedmont 350 SL
Miller-Orth

Sweet Caporal 150-25
Manning-Flick

Sweet Caporal 350-25
Lennox - Clancy

Sweet Caporal 350-30
Barbeau - Strang
Graham (St. Louis) - Clark (Columbus)
Graham (Boston) - Burns
Killian (port.) - Dubuc
McGlynn - Jones (Detroit)
Rossman - Thomas
Schmidt (Portrait) - Sweeney (Bill)
Wagner, Heinie (left shoulder) - Schlei (catching)

Sweet Caporal - factory number unknown
Bowerman - Chance (front ?)
McGraw (front ?) - Hayden
Pickering - Myers (front )

The rest - back information unknown or damaged
Bresnahan (port.) - Doolin
Criger - Ritchey
Keeler (front ?) - McGraw (front ?)
Walsh - Lumley Piedmont (back damage - no series number)[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

[Pat R]

A member and hobby friend picked up this PD350 Wallace - Sullivan the lists have really grown since Jantz started this thread thanks to all that have participated and kept the lists updated.

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American Beauty 350 framed
Hinchman, H. - Taylor

Cycle 350
Beck - Unglaub

El Principe De Gales
Young - Rucker
Stovall (port.) - Lajoie (throwing)

Old Mill (Baseball Series)
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)

Old Mill (Southern League)
Miller - Orth

Piedmont 150
Beaumont - Seymour
Bender (port.) - Delehanty (Wash.)
Bergen (bat) - Dooin
Brown, M (port.) - Magee (port.)
Bradley (port.) - Bender (port.)
Dahlen (Boston) - Wagner (Boston)
Devlin - Schulte (front view)
Evers (port.) - Chance (red port.)
Hinchman, B. - Stovall (port.)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Johnson (port.) - Schlei (catching)
Joss (port) - Criss
Konetchy - Jennings (port.)
Killian (pitching) - Chance (red port.)
Lindaman - Bresnahan (port.)
Lundgren (Cubs) - Doolin
Lundgren (Cubs) - Ball (New York)
Manning (batting) - Flick
Pastorius - Lake (NY, throw)
Powell (horizontal) - O'Leary (port.)
Rucker - Young?
Shipke - Griffith
Spade - Cicotte
Steinfeldt (port.) - Kling
Walsh - Seymour (batting)

Piedmont 350
Abbaticchio (brown) - Cicotte
Atz - Hoffman (Providence)
Butler - Raymond
Chance (yellow port.) - Feine (?)
Chase (blue port.) - Zimmerman
Chase (White Cap) - Jacklitsch
Delehanty (Wash.) - Waddell (port.)
Egan - Warhop
Elberfeld (NY port.) - Parent
Engle - Phillippe
Ganzel - Downs
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)
Herzog (NY) - Ritchey
Hoblitzell - Stephens
Hunter - Quinn
Jackson - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Livingstone - Maloney
Marquard (port) - Cree
McElveen - Dygert
McGinley - Speaker
McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro
McIntyre (Detroit) - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Moran, H. - Arrellanes
Oakes - Easterly
Rossman - McBride
Schmidt - Starr
Shaw - Chappelle
Snodgrass (batting) - Maddox
Turner - Lobert
Turner - O'Leary
Wallace - Sullivan
Walsh - Brown, M (port.)

Piedmont 350 SL
Miller - Orth

Sweet Caporal 150-25
Manning-Flick

Sweet Caporal 350-25
Lennox - Clancy

Sweet Caporal 350-30
Barbeau - Strang
Graham (St. Louis) - Clark (Columbus)
Graham (Boston) - Burns
Killian (port.) - Dubuc
McGlynn - Jones (Detroit)
Rossman - Thomas
Schmidt (Portrait) - Sweeney (Bill)
Wagner, Heinie (left shoulder) - Schlei (catching)

Sweet Caporal - factory number unknown
Bowerman - Chance (front ?)
McGraw (front ?) - Hayden
Pickering - Myers (front )

The rest - back information unknown or damaged
Bresnahan (port.) - Doolin
Criger - Ritchey
Keeler (front ?) - McGraw (front ?)
Walsh - Lumley Piedmont (back damage - no series number)

[Luke]

I forgot to get scans and now it has disappeared, but the last REA had a big lot that had another Old Mill Griffith portrait with Chase on top. So I've now seen two of those (still own the first one).

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Luke

I forgot to get scans and now it has disappeared, but the last REA had a big lot that had another Old Mill Griffith portrait with Chase on top. So I've now seen two of those (still own the first one).

That's odd Luke I didn't think REA removed scans do you remember the lot number? This is just a guess based on the number of examples but I would lean towards it being the white cap Chase.

[atx840]

I think this is it.

[Luke]

Yes, thank you Chris! I was going to see if I could find the lot number in my email trash, but wasn't optimistic.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by Anthony S.

I own a copy of the Snodgrass (batting) with Maddox's name on top. It's a Piedmont 350, Fact. no. 25.

Pretty

[Leon]

Cool, old thread...

[Pat R]

A couple of new ones both Piedmont 350's Poland/Bill Graham and Weimer/Billy Gilbert

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American Beauty 350 framed
Hinchman, H. - Taylor

Cycle 350
Beck - Unglaub

El Principe De Gales
Young - Rucker
Stovall (port.) - Lajoie (throwing)

Old Mill (Baseball Series)
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)

Old Mill (Southern League)
Miller - Orth

Piedmont 150
Beaumont - Seymour
Bender (port.) - Delehanty (Wash.)
Bergen (bat) - Dooin
Brown, M (port.) - Magee (port.)
Bradley (port.) - Bender (port.)
Dahlen (Boston) - Wagner (Boston)
Devlin - Schulte (front view)
Evers (port.) - Chance (red port.)
Hinchman, B. - Stovall (port.)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Johnson (port.) - Schlei (catching)
Joss (port) - Criss
Konetchy - Jennings (port.)
Killian (pitching) - Chance (red port.)
Lindaman - Bresnahan (port.)
Lundgren (Cubs) - Doolin
Lundgren (Cubs) - Ball (New York)
Manning (batting) - Flick
Pastorius - Lake (NY, throw)
Powell (horizontal) - O'Leary (port.)
Rucker - Young?
Shipke - Griffith
Spade - Cicotte
Steinfeldt (port.) - Kling
Walsh - Seymour (batting)

Piedmont 350
Abbaticchio (brown) - Cicotte
Atz - Hoffman (Providence)
Butler - Raymond
Chance (yellow port.) - Feine (?)
Chase (blue port.) - Zimmerman
Chase (White Cap) - Jacklitsch
Delehanty (Wash.) - Waddell (port.)
Egan - Warhop
Elberfeld (NY port.) - Parent
Engle - Phillippe
Ganzel - Downs
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)
Herzog (NY) - Ritchey
Hoblitzell - Stephens
Hunter - Quinn
Jackson - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Livingstone - Maloney
Marquard (port) - Cree
McElveen - Dygert
McGinley - Speaker
McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro
McIntyre (Detroit) - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Moran, H. - Arrellanes
Oakes - Easterly
Poland - Bill Graham
Rossman - McBride
Schmidt - Starr
Shaw - Chappelle
Snodgrass (batting) - Maddox
Turner - Lobert
Turner - O'Leary
Wallace - Sullivan
Walsh - Brown, M (port.)
Weimer - Billy Gilbert

Piedmont 350 SL
Miller - Orth

Sweet Caporal 150-25
Manning-Flick

Sweet Caporal 350-25
Lennox - Clancy

Sweet Caporal 350-30
Barbeau - Strang
Graham (St. Louis) - Clark (Columbus)
Graham (Boston) - Burns
Killian (port.) - Dubuc
McGlynn - Jones (Detroit)
Rossman - Thomas
Schmidt (Portrait) - Sweeney (Bill)
Wagner, Heinie (left shoulder) - Schlei (catching)

Sweet Caporal - factory number unknown
Bowerman - Chance (front ?)
McGraw (front ?) - Hayden
Pickering - Myers (front )

The rest - back information unknown or damaged
Bresnahan (port.) - Doolin
Criger - Ritchey
Keeler (front ?) - McGraw (front ?)
Walsh - Lumley Piedmont (back damage - no series number)

[stutor]

This popped up on eBay recently and was purchased immediately (not by me). Just wanted to share the pic here as it isn’t on the comprehensive list.

[atx840]

Nice find Sonny!

Pat, lines up with two ghosts we know of but in the 150 series.