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Old 01-14-2014, 06:35 PM
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Cracking some stuff out so I decided to play around a little.

Lets hope the new slabs can prevent this from being so easy: Caution, not for the faint of heart

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Old 01-14-2014, 06:46 PM
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Old 01-14-2014, 06:52 PM
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zero frosting is pretty scary. huh?

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Old 01-14-2014, 07:00 PM
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zero frosting is pretty scary. huh?

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The frosting is there. Scan it against a black background and you'll see it.
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:01 PM
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i already cracked it.

i can assure you there was no frosting. you are looking at scanner glare. the slab was not compromised on left side.

i did it and held it in my hand and held it up to a black background.

there was no visible way, what so ever to determine how the slab was compromised.

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Old 01-15-2014, 12:04 AM
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Kevin, please tell me that wasn't the first slab you attempted to crack.
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:14 AM
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Kevin, please tell me that wasn't the first slab you attempted to crack.
Nope, but this is the first time I really tried to see how well I could do it.

I really didn't even have to split the slab. I was able to remove the flip and insert a new flip without any cracking or frosting.

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Old 01-15-2014, 06:47 AM
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Nope, but this is the first time I really tried to see how well I could do it.

I really didn't even have to split the slab. I was able to remove the flip and insert a new flip without any cracking or frosting.

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That's really disturbing. But, it just reinforces how important buying the card, and not the flip, is.

I hope this new PSA slab proves to be much more tamper resistant. I wonder, too, if SGC will change their slab somehow.
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The cracking of a PSA slab and resealing it with no visual evidence has been done since the beginning. I though it was common knowledge like the trimmed Wagner.

My opinion is PSA used these junk slabs as long as possible before changing. Now they will start covertly advertising how easy they are to crack so they can make a killing on reslabbing with the new holder.

I have never had any luck cracking a SGC slab without noticeable damage. Anyone else have better luck?
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:03 AM
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should be pretty easy also.

the frosting can be removed pretty easily with stuff that removes frosting, such as headlight defogging tool kits from your local car store.

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Old 01-15-2014, 07:06 AM
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should be pretty easy also.

the frosting can be removed pretty easily with stuff that removes frosting, such as headlight defogging from your local car store.

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Have you tried this? I do not understand how internal frosting could be removed that way.

I have "heard" a paint stripper(heat gun) will remover the frosting, but takes practice to not warp the holder.
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The cracking of a PSA slab and resealing it with no visual evidence has been done since the beginning. I though it was common knowledge like the trimmed Wagner.
Apparently not common knowledge after all

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The cracking of a PSA slab and resealing it with no visual evidence has been done since the beginning. I though it was common knowledge like the trimmed Wagner.

My opinion is PSA used these junk slabs as long as possible before changing. Now they will start covertly advertising how easy they are to crack so they can make a killing on reslabbing with the new holder.

I have never had any luck cracking a SGC slab without noticeable damage. Anyone else have better luck?
I can generally pull apart an ozersized SGC slab with my fingers without any noticeable damage lol
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:52 AM
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Have you tried this? I do not understand how internal frosting could be removed that way.

I have "heard" a paint stripper(heat gun) will remover the frosting, but takes practice to not warp the holder.
no. i don't really have to much interest in trying to make a perfect fake.

what internal frosting? have you cracked an sgc slab before?

all of the frosting is simply bits of plastic on the surface of the plastic holder around the lip/ledge where it seals. if you are physically causing the plastic to fracture deeper than that, then i would say you have done something wrong.

i would try it, im out of the headlight cleaning solution. i see no reason it will not work though, based on what i am looking at, given scrubbing it alone with a green sink sponge makes it look better

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I wonder, too, if SGC will change their slab somehow.
On our SGC boards i remember reading this:


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Yup sure would be nice to hear something!

Hi all ~ I seen the post and thought it would be a great opportunity to to share some of the up and coming things SGC will be unveiling soon. As many of you may know, SGC has been working to redesign the website both its look and overall functionality. Some of the problems with the online submission form, POP Report and other things are being changed. SGC is already nearing the final stages of unveiling its newly designed thin-line holder and new SGC label. This will replace our regular holder that is most commonly used for all issues except "tall boy" cards and over-sized. There will also be a new SGC Authentic label for any encapsulated autographed items. The new authentic label will in time be able to show both a card grade and auto grade. Autograph grading is now available but will be displayed a little differently on the label than what will be in the near future. SGC is also looking ahead at redesigning more holders in the near future. As you can see (and as promised), SGC is being very proactive in making our mark in the Hobby and grading industry. We continue to pride ourselves in the high quality we offer in both our grading & customer service.
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Always buy the card. Didn't someone sell a bunch of broken cases and/or labels recently?
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