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Old 11-18-2003, 11:27 PM
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Posted By: Lee Behrens

I was curious what the 20 toughest T206 are to find (dimissing the backs, and printing imperfections). Here is kind of my guess:

1. Doyle, NY Natl
2. Wagner,
3. Magie
4. Plank
5. O'Hara, St. Louis
6. Elberfeld, Wash.
7. Lundgren, Chicago
8. Browne, Wash.
9. F. Smith, Chicago & Boston
10. Dahlen, Brooklyn
11. Kleinow, Boston
12. - 19. the 150 only Series cards other than the other 2 already listed.
20. Unsure

I may have missed one or two but that's what I came up with.

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Old 11-19-2003, 04:24 AM
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Posted By: Patrick McMenemy

The Kleinow (Boston) is nothing more than hype. I've seen several times when more than six of them have been on EBAY at once. However, finding a nice one without corner wear or creases may be difficult.

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Old 11-19-2003, 05:44 AM
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Posted By: Eric Angyal

Lee,

You might want to add the Demmitt - St. Louis card right after the O'Hara - St. Louis.

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Old 11-19-2003, 11:47 AM
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Posted By: Lee Behrens

I knew I would forget one. Plus I have heard from more than one person that the Kleinow Boston is not very scarce. can anyone else collaborate this.

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Old 11-19-2003, 12:03 PM
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Posted By: tbob

Not that well known but extremely tough are the T206 Rhoades Cleveland arm extended and the Lindeman in EXMT or better. If you don't believe me, try and find one!

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Old 11-19-2003, 01:39 PM
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Posted By: Mike (18colt)

I agree -- Demmitt, St. Louis right below O'Hara.

I would flip-flop Magie and Plank. For every Plank you see on eBay, there are at least 3-5 Magie's for sale.

Anyone remember when Plank had a price guide value of half of the Wagner (I think it was as late as the 1970s)? How about close to equal (I think it was as late as the 1950s)? I'd argue that the number of Plank cards and the number of Wagner cards are closer than many experts believe. The legend/supposed story behind the Wagner leads to its mystique and rarity.

Anyway, it was mentioned before on a prior post, but is this a list of "rarity" or "scarcity" (virtually the same thing except that scarcity involves a demand aspect whereas rarity does not involve demand)?

Nice idea for a list!

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Posted By: Brian Weisner


1. Doyle
2. Cobb/Cobb bk
3. Wagner
4. Plank
5. Magie
6. Demmitt
O'hara
8. Elberfeld
9. Smith chi& bos
10. Lundgren CHI
11. Brown Wash
12. Dahlen
13. Kleinow Bos
14. Pattee
Powers
Brown Cubs
Evers Blue
Reulbach Glove (really tough to find in EX OR BETTER
Pelty Hor
Burch Batt
Donlin field
Brown Chi
The above list does not include cards that are difficult to find in Excellent or better condition only cards difficult to locate.

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Old 11-19-2003, 02:17 PM
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Posted By: Hankron

Of the cards listed, the top four scarcities are:

1. Wagner
2. Doyle, NY Nat'l (rarest)
3. Plank
4. Magie

The Ty Cobb back, if included, would be third (though second rarest).

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Posted By: Hankron

Though an imperfect measure, probably the best way to determine scarcity is to look at auction and sale results ... As the Wagner sells for by far the most money (Doyle a close competitor in lower grade), it has to be listed as the scarcest, even if not the rarest.

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