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Old 12-05-2022, 01:05 PM
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Met's Replace Degrom with Verlander 2 years $86 Million plus a potential vesting for a 3rd.
A lot for an older player but should be worth it and the risk is less with a short term deal
they should wait 40 games or so then break in verlander....why make him start all year if can make playoffs without him in begging .alonso is a beast...
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Old 12-06-2022, 04:45 AM
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they should wait 40 games or so then break in verlander....why make him start all year if can make playoffs without him in begging .alonso is a beast...
Interesting thought.
Looking forward to watching him and Alonso is definitely a beast
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WOW

I hope this is not a sign for the Rangers but

Jason's debut is delayed with a soreness

https://nypost.com/2023/02/15/jacob-...rangers-debut/
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I hope this is not a sign for the Rangers but

Jason's debut is delayed with a soreness

https://nypost.com/2023/02/15/jacob-...rangers-debut/
As a Mets fan, this is like the sun coming up
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Old 02-16-2023, 03:57 AM
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As a Mets fan, this is like the sun coming up
I hope this is a blip and I hope he is healthy to pitch for them and hope he does well.
Would love him in the HOF some day and with a Mets Cap on

But this is what is so frustrating with him as a fan he is so amazingly talented when on the field pitching but injury bug the last 3 years keeps him off the mound to much and to often.
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I hope this is a blip and I hope he is healthy to pitch for them and hope he does well.
Would love him in the HOF some day and with a Mets Cap on

But this is what is so frustrating with him as a fan he is so amazingly talented when on the field pitching but injury bug the last 3 years keeps him off the mound to much and to often.
Thats what makes Nolan Ryan so special to me....that he was a fireballer and played for so long.....Clemens as well but he has other issues..
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I don't understand why fans have hatred for guys who leave. Have you ever moved jobs? I have. Sometimes it's for more money, sometimes it's just for a change, sometimes for family or other reasons. These guys have zero loyalty or affinity for any of these teams. I loved Degrom when he was great, and he moved on, and, well so do my ex wife. Best of luck against everyone except us. This whole narative that DeGrom never properly thanked Mets fans publicly on his departure is ridiculous.

It's like Jerry Seinfeld says, being a sport fan is really just being a fan of laundry. We loved that guy until he leaves. Then we hate him. And we hated that guy, but, wow now he's on our team, and now we love him. It's all pretty ridiculous on some level. I have no doubt if Clemens had become a Met a few years after the Piazza bat throwing situation people would have loved him. Ditto Chase Utley.

Met fans bad mouth Matt Harvey today. Over what? Being a generally asshole? Well we knew that when he was on the team didn't we. But then he was our asshole. Guy was a warrior.

Fans love building guys up and then shitting on them.

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I don't understand why fans have hatred for guys who leave. Have you ever moved jobs? I have. Sometimes it's for more money, sometimes it's just for a change, sometimes for family or other reasons. These guys have zero loyalty or affinity for any of these teams. I loved Degrom when he was great, and he moved on, and, well so do my ex wife. Best of luck against everyone except us. This whole narative that DeGrom never properly thanked Mets fans publicly on his departure is ridiculous.

It's like Jerry Seinfeld says, being a sport fan is really just being a fan of laundry. We loved that guy until he leaves. Then we hate him. And we hated that guy, but, wow now he's on our team, and now we love him. It's all pretty ridiculous on some level. I have no doubt if Clemens had become a Met a few years after the Piazza bat throwing situation people would have loved him. Ditto Chase Utley.

Met fans bad mouth Matt Harvey today. Over what? Being a generally asshole? Well we knew that when he was on the team didn't we. But then he was our asshole. Guy was a warrior.

Fans love building guys up and then shitting on them.

I generally root for guys that move on from my teams. Especially if they were homegrown, or it seems like they got the shaft or were taken for granted when they were let go, traded, not signed, etc....

My favorite example is Ron Francis. Whalers were always a middling franchise when they were in Hartford. They thought Francis was washed up and injury prone at 27 years old. Traded him and Ulfie Samuelsson for a can of corn and a box of cereal.

I watched from afar as Francis got to play on the same line as Mario Lemieux, and Ulfie was still a solid defenseman, along with a top enforcer for Pittsburgh, while Hartford drifted to the bottom of the standings for the foreseeable future.

Francis eventually made his way back, to the Carolina version of the Whalers and better times, but by then I had lost interest.

Francis eventually became the #2 assist guy and #5 points guy of All-Time while also establishing himself as one of the most durable Centers of All-Time. Not bad for a washed up, injury prone throwaway.

My 2nd favorite was Dave Winfield becoming a Playoff and World Series hero for Toronto in 1992, after George Steinbrenner spent 10 years sh*tting all over him for not being Reggie Jackson in 1981.

I also gotta thank Winfield for getting Georgie Boy suspended eventually, and creating a window for the Yankees "Core 5" (yes I'll call them that), to be nurtured in the farm system for a bit, instead of getting traded for old has beens and coulda beens.

The modern day revisionist hero worship of Steinbrenner these days from rabid dude-bro Yankee fans who don't remember what a shitheel George was from 1979 on, annoys me to no end.
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I don't understand why fans have hatred for guys who leave. Have you ever moved jobs? I have. Sometimes it's for more money, sometimes it's just for a change, sometimes for family or other reasons. These guys have zero loyalty or affinity for any of these teams. I loved Degrom when he was great, and he moved on, and, well so do my ex wife. Best of luck against everyone except us. This whole narative that DeGrom never properly thanked Mets fans publicly on his departure is ridiculous.

It's like Jerry Seinfeld says, being a sport fan is really just being a fan of laundry. We loved that guy until he leaves. Then we hate him. And we hated that guy, but, wow now he's on our team, and now we love him. It's all pretty ridiculous on some level. I have no doubt if Clemens had become a Met a few years after the Piazza bat throwing situation people would have loved him. Ditto Chase Utley.

Met fans bad mouth Matt Harvey today. Over what? Being a generally asshole? Well we knew that when he was on the team didn't we. But then he was our asshole. Guy was a warrior.

Fans love building guys up and then shitting on them.
Steve, maybe my comment came off the wrong way - I'm a fan of DeGrom and I wish him well (even though I think it's kind of funny that, like Ohtani, he chose to go to a not-so-great team).

I was more expecting what usually happens when players leave the org - they go on to be better. (Like Scott Kazmir) I suppose that could still happen but my intended meaning was more along the lines of "yep, he's still the same old DeGrom".
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I hear you. If I misunderstood your sentiments, that's on me and apology for it.

Maybe I spend too much time on Mets Twitter. Seems like legions of Met fans are just wishing the worst for DeGrom.

There are a lot of people in the world I utterly despise, but a former player for my team isn't one of them.


QUOTE=BobbyStrawberry;2315080]Steve, maybe my comment came off the wrong way - I'm a fan of DeGrom and I wish him well (even though I think it's kind of funny that, like Ohtani, he chose to go to a not-so-great team).

I was more expecting what usually happens when players leave the org - they go on to be better. (Like Scott Kazmir) I suppose that could still happen but my intended meaning was more along the lines of "yep, he's still the same old DeGrom".[/QUOTE]
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Fans don't like to see players leave for the same reason they don't cheer for other teams.

Yankees fans love seeing Mattingly at the stadium. They could care less about Robinson Cano. Shouldn't it be that way?
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Fans don't like to see players leave for the same reason they don't cheer for other teams.

Yankees fans love seeing Mattingly at the stadium. They could care less about Robinson Cano. Shouldn't it be that way?
Not cheering for a guy is different that actively despising him and hoping something shitty happens to him.
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That's typically an irrational reaction to most things in life. I don't feel as though the average Mets fan wants Jacob deGrom to suffer on a personal level.
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I hear you. If I misunderstood your sentiments, that's on me and apology for it.

Maybe I spend too much time on Mets Twitter. Seems like legions of Met fans are just wishing the worst for DeGrom.

There are a lot of people in the world I utterly despise, but a former player for my team isn't one of them.
No worries - yeah I agree. I've got some some of his cards and gear and I didn't burn any of it when he left!
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I agreed with most of the others
1. I do not believe we should disparage some one unless they deserve it. He does not deserve it. He has a right to get the most money possible that someone is willing to pay and it was Texas.
2. A a Met he was a class act and he was a fantastic pitcher when Healthy. Sadly last few years he was not consistently healthy.
3. I hope he does well with Texas (As long as he does not hurt my Team
4. I hope he stays healthy long enough to get into the HOF because he is trending that way
5. Wish the Mets still had him
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