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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Paul
This seller is at it again selling fake Fro Joy sheets as original. I contacted the seller very nicely the last time he had it listed, & he was a rude jerk. Please help, & report it to eBay as a replica. Not sure why the links stopped working for me. The eBay item# is 8764037706 Thank you. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Martin Neal
I would be happy to report it. How do you know it is a reprint? |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Paul
The lack of picture quality, clarity, & overall appearance. The biggest giveaway is that the background of the portrait card should be black. It's easly a reprint. I would really appreciate your help. Here's a link to what the portrait card should look like. Thanks again. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: fkw
He is right it is 100% fake, the background of the portrait card should be black. This sheet is actually a B&W reprint of the fake colorized sheets. So its a reprint of a reprint garbage |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: leon
I just reported this guy to ebay....if anyone has a spare minute please do so also. Not only was this guy emailed politely he was a jerk AND still left it up....thanks....moderator dude |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Jason
I posted an email to the guy as well Here was his response I received: |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Paul
Did you use the above link to report this guy? Now you know why I started this thread. Like Frank said it's a "reprint of a reprint". Total garbage. |
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Posted By: Bob S
I, too, have just sent a message to this seller letting him know that his item was a reprint of a reproduction. |
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Posted By: Paul
He already knows it's a reprint. The only way is to use the link above to report it to eBay. You cant reason with this guy. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Paul
Still need help. Please report this fraud. (yes, he made me mad) Thank you. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: steve f
He's slyly skirted around any listing violations. Hard to pin this creep down. Big seller fee for the Bay, they likely wont listen if they haven't already -crooked Power Sellers tend to have more freedom *ch -ching*. Caveat emptor |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Keith
What you guys should do if ebay won't boot the auction and the guy is a jackass that won't listen to reason, is email all the bidders (I know there is only 1 right now) The seller should have made it a private aucton to avoid this, but he didn't. By educating his bidders, you will really piss the scam artist off. |
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Posted By: Paul
Is that against eBay rules? |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Bill Todd
Has anybody contacted the current bidder? The poor guy has spent like 50 bucks on eBay over the last year, and here he is bidding $500 on what he thinks is a great deal. Hate to see somebody whacked so hard in the hobby by a sleazy seller. |
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Posted By: Keith
I don't think so. I think it is warranted is such a case |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: jim
I sent the high bidder an e-mail warning him it was a fake. It's now on the bidders shoulders to retract his bid. If he doesn't, it's his own fault now. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: ramram
Just be careful...ass-backwards Ebay may boot you for contacting the bidders but will be hesitant to stop the seller. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Al Crisafulli
Yes, be careful with that. I know someone who contacted the high bidder on a reprint that was being sold as authentic. Ebay gave him a warning, and threatened to suspend his account. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Jason Duncan
His Name is Rick Giddings from Davis Junction IL. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Paul
I still think the best recourse is using eBay's replica/counterfiet reporting link to report the item. I really dont know if eBay will do anything, but maybe they will if enough of us reported it. As far as contacting a bidder about a scam, I have done it in the past without any problems, but I suspect there could be issues depending on how you go about it. eBay's policy states the following: eBay allows members to contact one another through the eBay Email Forwarding System, with features such as "Contact an eBay Member" and "Ask Seller a Question". The purpose of these features is to provide an open avenue of communication between eBay users" |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Jason Duncan
I actually got to speak with this guy by phone today. His name is Rick Giddings from Illinois and after some heated items we exchanged he left this number 815-645-8282. I would reccomend anyone with questions to contact him. After speaking for about an hour he really is a nice guy though abrasive at first. Point is if you have great issue you should call him and confront him by phone about the Fro-Joy like I did. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: leon
No need to talk to him on the phone. If he's a good guy he will shut the auction down instead of selling a fake as real.....Would anyone buy that fake sheet for $500 if they knew it was a $2.00 fake? |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: ramram
if the bidder has been notified that it's a fake and he doesn't eventually remove his bid, then it's quite apparent that the bidder is a shill. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Jason Duncan
Leon- |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Paul
Jason, I'm 100% sure it's fake. No doubt about it, but I have no desire to talk to him. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: leon
I am 100% sure.... |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: leon
I just had a long chat with Rick. He thinks it's real. I still don't. I can see how folks might think he's abrasive. Seems like he knows a lot of folks in the hobby. I still think it's fake.....regards |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Dennis W.
Use the eBay Negatives/Neutrals Lookup tool and check his feedback. Evidently he used to be steelcurtain63 also. Pretty scary. The term "abrasive" may be an understatement. |
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Posted By: mark
If it would be of any help I will try to post my real one this weekend and you all can be the judge. Mine was confirmed legitimate by a reknowned member of this board. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: howard
Dennis, how do I find the negatves/neutrals lookup tool? I looked but can't find it. |
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Posted By: scott ingold
Wow, Steelcurtain ? I have a friend who was actually threatened by this guy. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Jason Duncan
Agreed. He is abrasive by phone but harmless. He actually inst a bad guy once you approach him different. I do agree the sheet I think is not authentic. His mind is made up however, and I think his bark is alot bigger than his bite. Possibly a nice guy though underneath that rough hide. I don't have beef with him anymore. If someone is gullable enough to take a chance on it then I can't stop them. I doubt eBay will remove it. They don't care as long as they get paid. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: Dennis W.
To use the eBay Negatives/Neutrals Lookup tool go to "Vintage Links" on the main page of this forum. Scroll down to the bottom and you'll see it there. Or go there directly: |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: leon
I believe this is a good Fro Joy. It has the correct "patchy" patina/gloss and the feel of an 80 year old card.....regards |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: andy
Here's one that we feel is authentic. This is the one Mark referenced above that was deemed real by a board member. |
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Posted By: Paul
I sent you an email. I cant seem to be able to post pics here lately. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: leon
This test comparison was done about a year or so ago and posted on the board...easy to spot the fake here... |
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Posted By: andy
Thanks Paul. Very helpful. i'll get magnified pics and let you know, |
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Posted By: Cobby33
to "interfere with a transaction." In this case, the consensus seems that it would be warranted, however, I still think it's not allowed. |
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Posted By: Paul
Seems the seller is going to get away with it. What a shame. It's not even a nice reprint. |
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Please Help- ebay fake and the guy is a jerk
Posted By: ramram
You still gotta wonder if the buyer is a shill. If not, then he's a sucker because he was warned. So be it. |
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