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“Ideal” centering for 1954 Topps Banks
I would love to hear opinions on this and of course there is no “right” answer. Topps decided to screw with everyone in their production of this card. Even the PSA 10s I’ve seen on social media don’t look quite right. It’s one of the great mysteries of the hobby in my opinion.
For me, I want to see the left-right border matched in width near the bottom of the card where there is a border. For the top-down centering, I think the answer is that the bottom border matches the width of the side borders and the top border just doesn’t exist. I think a match between the “border” defined by top of his name and the bottom border isn’t the design intent but appears to be PSAs definition. Let’s have a deep dive on this one! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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“Ideal” centering for 1954 Topps Banks
Here’s my lovely example (if I can get my link to work!)
https://flic.kr/p/2kABWwG Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by IgnatiusJReilly; 09-04-2021 at 07:47 AM. |
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I prefer a little room above the name.
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Here is one I like.
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Great topic Matthew!
The L/R centering is pretty straightforward, but the Top/Bottom centering is kind of a 'know it when you see it' sort of thing. Should have a bit of space above the name, I agree. The Kaline for me is my favorite '54 for centering in my PC, and I think it nails the Top/Bottom centering for my money. The Spahn is only shown as an example of centering that is just a wee bit too far weighted to the top for my eye.
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Just to be clear, my 7MC example is not my definition of ideal centering but it’s the card I have!
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I picked this one up last year and from what I can see is as close to perfect centering as one can expect. I use the 3 borders (excluding the top) as my drivers. The b/w action image is clearly meant to encroach into the border as part of the original design intent.
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I remember when you posted this one! In my opinion, this example has nearly ideal centering. Beautiful card! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Here is mine---the way i like them
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For the black and white image, you want to see some white space between his rear end and the edge of the card, if it's touching or even close to the edge it's off center. See this overgraded SGC example in HA, you'd never see this in a new PSA holder in a 5. https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515 I can't attach mine as I scanned it high resolution, tried compressing it to a zip and it's still too large. |
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Sadly, the "new" SGC lost the script on centering in the last 3 years along with their myriad other problems. That card could be considered miscut and is definitely not a 5. But with other things, it seems they have hired some graders who don't know how to compute centering and are overly harsh on it. Last year I had two different '72 Topps cards in SGC 5's that were moderately OC, but not more than 70/30. The centering downgrade was overkill - both could have been 7's.
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Great thread. Some great looking Banks cards being shown. Here is my contribution to this thread. Not perfectly centered but not too bad for a 54.
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Definitely some PSA chest thumping. No creases or wrinkles and sharp corners. You can see a little ding/dent(?) on the right edge by his butt. Otherwise it’s very clean. It’s one of the best I’ve seen in any grade.
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Mine.
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My humble 4. Centering is always my priority and I believe I did well with this one but had not considered all of the factors brought forth in this thread.
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