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Old 09-13-2020, 04:34 PM
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Default 52 Topps Front Color Variations

Sorting through my 52T set and ran across a color variation on the Ray Boone. One green front and the other olive, both black backs. I was oblivious to this variation and the few other front color variations within the set. I recently bought a large 52 lot and have been comparing/upgrading as I go.

I’m sure most are already aware of this variation, but figured I’d post just in case others were not aware.




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There is a thread about all sorts of 1952 Topps variations including Boone, Crandall and Feller color variations.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...yI09wSYwF8__4f
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Its a serious rabbit hole!

Border breaks, gray backs, etc etc


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Huggins and Scott Super set checklist from a few years back. Many are recurrung print defects, and there have been additional discoveries since it sold



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Huggins and Scott Super set checklist from a few years back. Many are recurrung print defects, and there have been additional discoveries since it sold



http://aug13.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...l?itemid=59354
Sorry to go OT, but that is one heck of a set....I felt like it's hammer price was a bargain 7 years ago when it sold. I wonder what this same set would bring in today's market? Two to three times what it sold for 7 years ago?
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It lists 4 versions of the Boone, two different for both red and black backs


Here is an old thread. It mentions two other possible color background variants....Feller and Crandal. I have seen and have Feller cards where the horizontal front "slats" are clear or greatly faded. I have yet to see an orange Crandall, even theough it has been listed or rumoured in several publications, including the Gilkeson variations compendium, and in the H&S Super set. Anyone have one they can post...orange, not faded red

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrJ...e.cDY2eD2RgXI-

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Old 09-14-2020, 11:40 AM
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Thanks for the references to info guys! And wow, that master set referenced is amazing!
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Old 09-14-2020, 03:31 PM
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In 2013 when I published my book, I had the following color variants. There are more varieties now for some of these I believe. 88 Feller is also found with a solid yellow background or one which shows lines.

CARDS WITH MULTIPLE VARIATIONS
48 JOE PAGE YANKEES SAIN BIOGRAPHY-BLACK BACK
48 JOE PAGE YANKEES CORRECT BIOGRAPHY-BLACK BACK
48 JOE PAGE YANKEES CORRECT BIOGRAPHY-RED BACK
49 JOHNNY SAIN YANKEES PAGE BIOGRAPHY-BLACK BACK
49 JOHNNY SAIN YANKEES CORRECT BIOGRAPHY-BLACK BACK
49 JOHNNY SAIN YANKEES CORRECT BIOGRAPHY-RED BACK
42 LOU KRETLOW WHITE SOX YELLOW BACKGROUND-BLACK BACK
42 LOU KRETLOW WHITE SOX PEACH BACKGROUND BLACK BACK
42 LOU KRETLOW WHITE SOX PEACH BACKGROUND RED BACK
43 RAY SCARBOROUGH RED SOX YELLOW BACKGROUND-BLACK BACK
43 RAY SCARBOROUGH RED SOX PEACH BACKGROUND-BLACK BACK
43 RAY SCARBOROUGH RED SOX PEACH BACKGROUND-RED BACK
55 RAY BOONE INDIANS LIGHT GREEN BACKGROUND-BLACK BACK
55 RAY BOONE INDIANS DARK GREEN BACKGROUND-BLACK BACK
55 RAY BOONE INDIANS ORANGE BACKGROUND-RED BACK
55 RAY BOONE INDIANS GREEN BACKGROUND RED BACK
56 TOMMY GLAVIANO CARDINALS CARDINALS LOGO WHITE-BLACK BACK
56 TOMMY GLAVIANO CARDINALS CARDINALS LOGO YELLOW-RED BACKGROUND
80 HERMAN WEHMEIER REDS YELLOW/RED BACKGROUND-BLACK BACK
80 HERMAN WEHMEIER REDS ORANGE/RED BACKGROUND-BLACK BACK
80 HERMAN WEHMEIER REDS ORANGE/RED BACKGROUND-RED BACK
146 FRANK HOUSE TIGERS TIGERS LOGO YELLOW
146 FRANK HOUSE TIGERS TIGERS LOGO RED
162 DEL CRANDALL BRAVES ORANGE BACKGROUND
162 DEL CRANDALL BRAVES RED BACKGROUND
307 FRANK CAMPOS SENATORS BLACK STAR/RED STAR
307 FRANK CAMPOS SENATORS RED STAR
307 FRANK CAMPOS SENATORS BROKEN FRAME LINE
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I knew about these, but still have never seen a orange Crandall. I have seen lighter or darker red but the difference is negligible. I have a Feller with faint slats or clear ones, but have never seen one in hand where the slats are not at least slightly present
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I knew about these, but still have never seen a orange Crandall. I have seen lighter or darker red but the difference is negligible. I have a Feller with faint slats or clear ones, but have never seen one in hand where the slats are not at least slightly present
Yeah fuzzy vs distinct slats would be correct. Any other color variations beyond the ones I posted?
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Sorting through my 52T set and ran across a color variation on the Ray Boone. One green front and the other olive, both black backs. I was oblivious to this variation and the few other front color variations within the set. I recently bought a large 52 lot and have been comparing/upgrading as I go.

I’m sure most are already aware of this variation, but figured I’d post just in case others were not aware.




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I recently just discovered this variation as well and have been looking for a decent copy ever since.
If you have one that you are looking to move, please PM me.

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Dave -- the Super set does list a lot of other variants most of which are easy to run down. They are recurring print defects for the most part. Some are background color variants, including

26 Irvin B brown/tan
54 Kiely B orange/beige
200 Houk white/pink
225 Baumholtz brown/tan

I have been able to run down the other print defects listed in the Super set checklist I posted above plus a few extras. Still short on the gray backs and doubt I will further pursue them
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I recently just discovered this variation as well and have been looking for a decent copy ever since.
If you have one that you are looking to move, please PM me.

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I am still undecided on what I'm doing with my main 52 set. But, if I do decide to part ways, I'll give you a crack at what I have. I'll be posting all my duplicates this weekend on here, which is roughly 210 low numbers. I'll try posting images of all, as they're currently in binder pages. Haven't checked through for these variations yet, so i may have more.
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I am still undecided on what I'm doing with my main 52 set. But, if I do decide to part ways, I'll give you a crack at what I have. I'll be posting all my duplicates this weekend on here, which is roughly 210 low numbers. I'll try posting images of all, as they're currently in binder pages. Haven't checked through for these variations yet, so i may have more.
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I just won this one the other night. Took a chance on the GAI grading, especially since it didn't read 1st graded, but I trusted the sellers comments, and it looked good to me.
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I just won this one the other night. Took a chance on the GAI grading, especially since it didn't read 1st graded, but I trusted the sellers comments, and it looked good to me.
Great find! Very nice presenting card!
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Great find! Very nice presenting card!
Thank you.

Still debating whether to crack it when I receive it or leave it alone?

I'll likely have a month before I get it to decide but that scratch on the case bothers me, plus I'd like to measure it accurately by laying it on top/beside another 52.
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It's got a slight diamond cut to it.
I think that's a good sign in re to possible trimming.
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It's got a slight diamond cut to it.
I think that's a good sign in re to possible trimming.
From side to side, the angles seem to match and this cards borders still have a lot of meat to them. I’d guess it’s not trimmed.
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It's got a slight diamond cut to it.
I think that's a good sign in re to possible trimming.
My other variation is very similar as it is also diamond cut.

To me, this new card doesn't look like it has been trimmed, but with the tiniest amount the card doctor's seem to be able to remove, I'll never know until it is in hand freed from its case.

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From side to side, the angles seem to match and this cards borders still have a lot of meat to them. I’d guess it’s not trimmed.
I agree, but I guess I am bias at this point.
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