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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Mike Peich
I bought a card from Brian Crotts, he has the payment, and I have no card. His last email said he'd send me the tracking number, but when I responded, my message was kicked back. Can anyone put me in touch with him, and/or vouch for his honesty? I am beginning to question the validity of the transaction. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Dan Bretta
The name doesn't sound familiar to me...was this on the B/S/T? |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Fred C
Dan, |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
Mike, this Brian is the same one in the thread about the MS charity and the PSA/DNA 1939 Play Ball Goof. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Mike Peich
Hi Dan, |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Mike Peich
Hi Rhett, |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: quan
even if he has a valid excuse here...how do you buy from him after the '39 playball thread and all those CU people coming over saying he was scamming people from over there??? |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Mike Peich
Real simple Quan--I didn't read the thread. I don't always have the time to read everything posted on this forum. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: quan
i hear ya mike...when i see a new name i don't recognize selling stuff i would ask for references right away. i've been burned before, it sucks so i'm more cautious than ever. (or send paypal cc) |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Mike Peich
Quan--I agree, and this is a lesson learned. I hope we can ban this guy from our forum. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Rest assured if he doesn't come through ASAP with your card or money back he will be banned. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: quan
i think mike will get his card...100-150 seems like such a small amount to scam someone out of, with all the hassles/stress/complications that come with it. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Jim VB
Mike, |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: barrysloate
I know Leon treats the BST as caveat emptor, which is not unreasonable, but maybe new sellers should have to provide some kind of references. Sorry about your experience Mike. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Steve F
While not offering 100% security, perhaps the possibility of displaying a Seller's longevity w/in BST posts would help prevent this sh!t? |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: leon
Sorry about your issue. We have still only had around a handful of problems in about 3 1/2 yrs in which I have been moderating. That's still too many. And of course Dan is correct. This guy, Brian for MS, won't be allowed to participate on this forum or the BST until he makes this situation right. After that we can decide what to do next. I think we will want explanations for the other BS I have seen too. It sort of seemed like everything had been worked out with his $75 PSA fiasco and I thought it was over. We certainly don't need deadbeats on the forum....plus there can be legal action if there was a theft. Just because stuff happens on the BST doesn't mean there are no laws that can be broken. I strongly recommend folks to ask for references when doing business with folks you don't know. I think I even posted a thread about it in the last week or so. regards |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Steve
I'm sorry this is happening to you. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Anonymous
With the NET54 s/w there is no way to rate each person. We could set up another index/forum with known good sellers on the BST? I can see an issue now: |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Steve
Mike |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Tim Kindler
If I'm interested in buying from the BST, and I don't recognize a name right away, I'll go through the previous few pages of the BST to see how many previous sales they might have had in recent times. If they have a few or more recent transactions, then I can count on them being safe. The great thing about this board is that if there is someone dishonest, they will be outed right away, and justifiably so! Mike, sorry about your situation, but thanks for further outing this character. Good luck with the resolution. Because of Leon's and everyone else who participates dilligence when it comes to patrolling honesty, our BST is by far still one of the safest places to do business. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: quan
at the very least ask for an ebay id and contact them through there... |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Paul
Mike, sorry to hear about your troubles. Sincerely, Paul |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Matt
Mike - That stinks. Thanks for outing him for the benefit of others. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Steve
Leon |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Michael Farson
This guy did it again! He has stolen from many people lately and made up lies to get money. I would never buy anything from this guy again! He is sorry as they come. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Bill
His two eBay ID's are cardsbysgc and osocards. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: leon
From the several folks I have seen posting, that said they have been scammed by him, it sounds like it's time for someone to call his local police dept. Sometimes they have a way of making things happen. I say this in full understanding that it should only be used as a last resort. From what I have seen on this board, pertaining to this individual, I would say it's a last resort. I am sure he reads this board, and CU, and has to know what is being said about him. You would think he would defend himself? Good luck and let us know what happens. regards |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: tothrk
I'm a new member but I've been reading the forum for a bit. I've never posted and am not sure of the effort involved in maintaining a website such as this. Perhaps a link on the homepage titled "SCUMBAGS" could direct everyone to a list of people to avoid dealing with. If this is illegal or possibly inviting litigation, perhaps you could name it something else not quite so offensive. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Steve F
Profiting from the guise of charity of a serious disease?.. Actually, SCUMBAG would be a compliment. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Steve, I just noticed your avatar. I'm in awe. How on earth did you create that? |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Brian T.
Perhaps the title of the list could be "Disavowed". |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Scott Sarian
We have a SERIOUS problem here. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: tothrk
Perhaps the list can be titled "The Brian Crotts Hall of Shame" Anyway, just to repeat myself, I'm new here but have been collecting quite some time. The depth of knowledge on this board as well as the non-sports forum is amazing. It's nice to meet everyone and I look forward to dealing with some of you. I collect anything I like (translation - anything I can afford) Right now I'm working on 56 and 61 topps sets and a Skybirds set. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Scott Sarian
My 12/23 Paypal payment to Brian went to this email address: |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Steve
Scott I'm surprised he sent it to you. Usually he tries to claim |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Here is his ad on the B/S/T |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Scott Sarian
So if it was posted on the BST on 12/22, unless it was posted on ebay for a 1-day auction, he posted it here when it was closing on ebay 24 hours later. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Steve
I think it was a one day auction. But what would that matter? |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Well...there is NO excuse for what happened here. This was flat out a scam. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Steve
I have emailed the OP with the address that we have on file of Brian. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: leon
It is against Network54.com rules to post personal contact information on this site. Many times it is done and nothing is said but rest assured, it is against Network54.com rules. So, no, I can't really allow personal information on this site, like that...Not too long ago was the very first time I got a nastygram from Net54 about allowing something like this. Shame on me. best regards |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Steve
That is why I asked, I figured it was a no no. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Fred C
He could be one of those guys that is really slooooow at shipping stuff and it takes constant reminders to finally get him to react. Funny thing is that he sure was on top of things with that 1939 PB card and PSA. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Mike Peich
Dear All, |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Steve
Why doesn't someone get on that CU board and ask him "what's up?" |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Fred C
Steve, |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: joe brennan
Steve, Wasn't he the guy that just offered a public apology on a recent CU thread? He didn't come up with a Secret Santa gift, bashed PSA, took donations for MS and then said he didn't and promised to make good on everything? That thread can't be 5 days old? I guess he's still up to his old tricks, just in new places. Geez. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Anthony N.
On a lot of boards sellers/traders will add the sig line |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: JDRUM
I generally try to do as a buyer on the BST is go back to the thread once I have rec'd the card and say thank you and that I rec'd it - deal done, it's all good. Potentially this lets anyone reading know that I paid and the seller shipped. The down side is that it bumps an old thread up to the top sometimes a week or ten days later. |
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Brian Crotts
Posted By: Matt
Jeff - I thought you gave the bump as a favor to the seller |
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