2016 Pre-Integration Era HOF Candidates

Doc Adams, Harry Stovey, Bill Dahlen, and Chris von der Ahe are all on the ballot.



http://baseballhall.org/hall-of-fame...016-candidates

[conor912]

Inducting guys 100 years after the fact always seemed silly to me. I think there should be like a 30 year cutoff - if you don't make it in 30, you never make it. How the situation can still be fluid after all those decades is beyond me. That said, I hope Dahlen gets in so that I can have another T3 HOFer

[bbcard1]

Larry Doyle never gets any love. I think he has a case comparable to those candidates, which is an era that has honored many and overlooked few.

[PolarBear]

von der Ahe should have been in the HOF 70 years ago. He was the first true promoter of baseball and an accomplished showman. His St. Louis Browns won four straight pennants in the 1880's.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

von der Ahe should have been in the HOF 70 years ago. He was the first true promoter of baseball and an accomplished showman. His St. Louis Browns won four straight pennants in the 1880's.

Truth! The dude put a "Shoot The Chutes" water slide ride at the ballpark.

I'd like to see the HOF induct more of the guys from the early years. Duncan Curry for example.

[cardsfan73]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

von der Ahe should have been in the HOF 70 years ago. He was the first true promoter of baseball and an accomplished showman. His St. Louis Browns won four straight pennants in the 1880's.

I agree 100%! Often overlooked how important a role he played in the early days of the game. Even when I am talking baseball with the locals they don't know about von der Ahe.

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by conor912

Inducting guys 100 years after the fact always seemed silly to me. I think there should be like a 30 year cutoff - if you don't make it in 30, you never make it. How the situation can still be fluid after all those decades is beyond me. That said, I hope Dahlen gets in so that I can have another T3 HOFer

Problem is that the Hall of Fame didn't exist until 1936 so many of the 19th Century players never had a chance like those that played later. For modern players I have no problem with the 30 or so year cutoff. The fact that an entire "major league" has only one or two inductees from its ranks seems silly to me (American Association).

[GaryPassamonte]

Rhett- What about the National Association? I don't think there are many, if any, players inducted whose careers were spent primarily in the NA. That is because most of these players don't meet the HOF's 10 year rule. Their years of play prior to the start of the leagues considered Major don't count. This is ludicrous. Ross Barnes is my pet peeve with this policy. I'm sick of seeing executives, managers, umpires, etc. from the 19th century getting inducted while these players are excluded for no good reason. They don't qualify as contributors because they are players. They don't qualify as players because of the 10 year rule. Apparently, no provision is considered by the HOF to rectify this exclusionary policy. That's my HOF rant for today.

[oldjudge]

Der Boss deserves to be in the HOF! Actually, I think Von der Ahe and Stovey are both deserving.

[GaryPassamonte]

I don't have a problem with any of the 19th century candidates. I think the 20th century candidates leave something to be desired.
Also, having one of the 3 categories considered for HOF inclusion span from the beginnings of baseball all the way to 1947 is not fair to the possible candidates. Two categories would be much more equitable. Maybe a category pre WWI and one post WWI to 1947 would be better.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by NewEnglandBaseBallist

Doc Adams, Harry Stovey, Bill Dahlen, and Chris von der Ahe are all on the ballot.



http://baseballhall.org/hall-of-fame...016-candidates

I wouldn't vote for any of these before Bob Caruthers gets in.