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Old 09-02-2009, 07:14 AM
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Default An Anlysis and a random thought

Of the top 10 viewed threads; I found this very interesting as, although random, and based on only a few months of history; shows what the interests of this board are.

And the results:

5 of the top 10 are about the hobby "dark side"

3 of those 4 relate to Mastro/Legendary/Silk Road and issues they have had (and may continue to have)

1 was about Kevin Saucier/Scott Elkins and a whole bunch of yapping.

1 was from Mr. Dan Markel about cards which a Scott Susor may have micro-trimmed. We learned from that thread that even a link to a thread mentioning his name on the PSA boards results in an istant "poof"

4 of the top 10 belong to "Pick-Up" threads. And since this board is not a meet market; that shows just how fascinated we are with what we acquire and that others are interested in what gets traded over a month.

and rounding out the top 10; a thread about how we would improve the National Convention.

What does this mean? I'm not sure. And the latest Marshall thread is now just outside the top 10 (situated at position #12 and needs to climb two more notches to make the top 10). Late Breaking News: Due to locking of thread; the top 10 will remain the same until the next exciting event in Net 54.

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The issue about Legendary charging their consigners to get cards graded is an interesting one. The question becomes; and I suppose without looking at their books none of us knows this answer is,...

Is Doug and company actually passing on actual grading costs (and does all that grading need to be done) or are they treating the grading costs as a profit center.

You realize that many of us would say something like "Heck; if I could get cards graded for $5 under a special deal that most customers would have to pay a minimum of $8, why should I not take advantage of that for my bottom line."

I think this is a grayer area than we realize in terms of running an auction house and I'd be interested in everyone's opinion as to whether making a profit on graded cards is OK or if the auction house should just absorb a cost; which could be considerable (for example, think about how many of the Lionel Carter cards were graded and now that they are in holders; how much better the provenance is)

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Note -- Matt's idea is fine as well, but I still want to hear all the sides in this.

Last edited by Rich Klein; 09-02-2009 at 08:39 AM. Reason: updated after the locked thread
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Old 09-02-2009, 07:18 AM
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whether making a profit on graded cards is OK or if the auction house should just absorb a cost; which could be considerable
There is the middle ground - the auction house just passes on the actual charges (maybe a copy of the bill from the TPG) to the consignor. Even with that, I'd expect the house to be responsible and and not send in cards for same day service that don't need it; since even though that would be more convenient for the house it would cost the consignor quite a bit more.
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Old 09-02-2009, 11:52 AM
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Although an interesting analysis, the specifics of the results appears flawed by the mechanics of the transition to the new board from the old, wherein the views does not properly carry over.

Sorting by "Replies" yields similar characteristics in the results, although differing threads, meaning that some of the more recent uproars are not as significant.

Although the darker side of the hobby still dominates.

That's just human nature. What makes the front of the newspaper everyday? The good? Or the bad?
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Old 09-02-2009, 11:56 AM
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Tim - he was only considering threads started since we transitioned to the new board.
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I believe only one person here has complained about grading by auction houses -- I suspect that in the scheme of things this is a minor issue, particularly where in most cases I imagine it increases the sale price of the cards. I doubt it is used as a profit center (that is, charging the consignor more than it cost the auction house).
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:41 PM
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I believe only one person here has complained about grading by auction houses -- I suspect that in the scheme of things this is a minor issue, particularly where in most cases I imagine it increases the sale price of the cards. I doubt it is used as a profit center (that is, charging the consignor more than it cost the auction house).
I think we've had two complaints - one a $1k bill and the other a $40k bill; nice round numbers.
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