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I’ve always found this story dubious at best.
Berger did not start telling it until decades later when he was an older man, and from what I know - there were no other Topps employees at the time who ever confirmed it. Realistically, why not just use the dumpster to get rid of the stuff instead of renting out a garbage scowl or whatever and sailing off into the East River? Don’t get me wrong. It’s a great story. I would love for it to be true. But it doesn’t make a ton of sense. The idea that it’s fiction born when the hobby became popular and Berger and others started getting more requests for comments and interviews makes a lot more sense to me. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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It is a tale that can not be fact checked now and nothing in it is impossible, but it was probably a lie as most tightly-constructed stories decades after the fact that don't really make much sense if you think about it are.
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Warehouse expense or expense of giving them away versus hiring trucks, loading trucks, unloading trucks, renting barge, loading barge, hiring crews for trucks, barge, dock workers....and Topps being cheap. Stuff of legends ?
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In one interview Sy indicates Topps rented a garbage scow to dump the cards because they did not want them stolen from the dumpster. However, there were other ways to get rid of them.
I hope Toppcat is able to chime in...as always, his Topps Archives gives some very insightful and interesting details of the story Last edited by Zach Wheat; 04-10-2024 at 02:05 PM. |
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https://www.thetoppsarchives.com/2021/08/highly-doubtful.html This is the Sports Illustrated article I mention in the above linked post: https://www.si.com/mlb/2021/07/06/to...ow-daily-cover Last edited by toppcat; 04-10-2024 at 05:19 PM. |
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I've never believed this story for a second.
As already mentioned Topps was not flush with cash to waste overhead in such a illogical way. I could believe incineration as it was a very popular method in these instances for that time. The math is just refusing to math on this. Sy was always one to take advantage of a story and the myth was one of his favorites to wink about. The collectors that love a good conspiracy will always embrace this, however I have seen far of evidence of Bigfoot than a speck of discernable fact in this hobby myth. As far as marketing goes, there has never been a reason to come out with the truth on this for Topps. More honestly, after this amount of time the only man that could have told the truth passed away in 2014. This hobby story is forever here to stay, but there is zero truth to it in my mind.
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That was Rosen's thought since there weren't any gum stains. Here's part of his ad where he says that is his belief.
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Supposedly they tried to give them away at fairs and carnivals for years - at least in some version of the story - and when this ultimately never worked, they dumped them in the river. Again, I don’t believe it but it’s a great story. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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It is a great hobby story, true or not
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