NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-13-2020, 10:42 AM
mintacular's Avatar
mintacular mintacular is offline
Patrick N.
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 3,908
Default A Player Passing Away & Selling Etiquette

Was wondering if there was an unwritten hobby rule about how long to wait to sell a card of a player that has recently passed away (as I have such a card). I recall early this year that when Kobe passed many speculators started to quickly list cards with inflated prices to take advantage of the new interest in Kobe cards--and that bothered me as I thought it was a bit classless and greedy. Thanks for your opinion.
__________________
My First YouTube Video:
https://youtu.be/1nW2r1NgdOA

Last edited by mintacular; 09-13-2020 at 10:42 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-13-2020, 10:58 AM
doug.goodman doug.goodman is offline
Doug Goodman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: On the road again...
Posts: 4,611
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mintacular View Post
Was wondering if there was an unwritten hobby rule about how long to wait to sell a card of a player that has recently passed away (as I have such a card). I recall early this year that when Kobe passed many speculators started to quickly list cards with inflated prices to take advantage of the new interest in Kobe cards--and that bothered me as I thought it was a bit classless and greedy. Thanks for your opinion.
By definition doesn't selling a card involve a bit of greed?

The best time to sell is when interest is high, and interest is never higher than when somebody famous dies.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-13-2020, 11:05 AM
iwantitiwinit's Avatar
iwantitiwinit iwantitiwinit is offline
rob.ert int.rieri
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NC
Posts: 2,462
Default

When you sell a card aren't you trying to realize the most profit possible? I say unless you're related to the player the proper ediquette is immediately following the service and burial.

Last edited by iwantitiwinit; 09-13-2020 at 11:05 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-13-2020, 11:11 AM
Koufax32fan's Avatar
Koufax32fan Koufax32fan is offline
Mike Oberl@nder
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Israel
Posts: 260
Default

This is not an ethical issue. It is unethical to purchase the autograph of recently deceased individual? The goods involved in our transactions are, by definition, not necessities. As long as the buyer and seller are honest with each other and treat each other as expected and appropriate to the situation, then they are acting ethically.

If Kobe's death (or Seaver's or Brock's) prompts interest and you want to sell, then sell. Or, if you want to buy, then buy. The same goes for getting a 3,000 strikeout or hit or being elected to the hall of fame.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-13-2020, 11:19 AM
Mike D. Mike D. is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: West Greenwich, RI
Posts: 1,490
Default

When a player passes, the interest spikes. Honestly, that’s how I knew Seaver had passed. Two low-cost lots of his cards I’d had listed for months sold within 30 min of each other. I was like “oh oh”. Sure enough I hit ESPN and there it was.

Reminds me of the day I flipped on the radio in the car and started working through the local FM channels. When I hit the 4th station playing “My Sweet Lord”, I knew George Harrison had passed away.

Last edited by Mike D.; 09-13-2020 at 11:20 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-13-2020, 11:32 AM
Bpm0014's Avatar
Bpm0014 Bpm0014 is offline
Brendan Mullen
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 2,855
Default

“Mickey Mantle don’t care about you. Why should you care about him?” “We’ll see if your father can’t pay the rent, go ask Mickey Mantle. See what he tells you...”
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-13-2020, 02:21 PM
Bram99 Bram99 is offline
Tony S.ti.ns.a
Tony Stins.a
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Elmhurst, IL
Posts: 377
Default however

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koufax32fan View Post
This is not an ethical issue. It is unethical to purchase the autograph of recently deceased individual? The goods involved in our transactions are, by definition, not necessities. As long as the buyer and seller are honest with each other and treat each other as expected and appropriate to the situation, then they are acting ethically.

If Kobe's death (or Seaver's or Brock's) prompts interest and you want to sell, then sell. Or, if you want to buy, then buy. The same goes for getting a 3,000 strikeout or hit or being elected to the hall of fame.
this is all true. However, it is unethical to sell an autographed item of a deceased player that is signed after the players' death.
__________________
Bram99

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it eat the dogfood
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-13-2020, 11:06 AM
Snapolit1's Avatar
Snapolit1 Snapolit1 is offline
Ste.ve Na.polit.ano
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 5,808
Default

Don’t think the athlete cares much. And the family, to the extent they are aware of the secondary market on cards and paraphernalia, would prob be either completely indifferent or thrilled.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-13-2020, 02:49 PM
todeen's Avatar
todeen todeen is offline
Tim Odeen
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,926
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mintacular View Post
Was wondering if there was an unwritten hobby rule about how long to wait to sell a card of a player that has recently passed away (as I have such a card). I recall early this year that when Kobe passed many speculators started to quickly list cards with inflated prices to take advantage of the new interest in Kobe cards--and that bothered me as I thought it was a bit classless and greedy. Thanks for your opinion.
I think based on the response of peers, 36 hours is the proper waiting time. One day to honor the dead and allow a moment of silence - so as not to feel unethical about your decision to sell. And the next 12 hours to list the item.
__________________
Barry Larkin, Joey Votto, Tris Speaker, 1930-45 Cincinnati Reds, T206 Cincinnati
Successful deals with: Banksfan14, Brianp-beme, Bumpus Jones, Dacubfan (x5), Dstrawberryfan39, Ed_Hutchinson, Fballguy, fusorcruiser (x2), GoCalBears, Gorditadog, Luke, MikeKam, Moosedog, Nineunder71, Powdered H20, PSU, Ronniehatesjazz, Roarfrom34, Sebie43, Seven, and Wondo
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-13-2020, 03:25 PM
drcy's Avatar
drcy drcy is offline
David Ru.dd Cycl.eback
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,469
Default

There is no rule.

That some people don't like it or complain about it doesn't make it a rule nor is proof that their opinion is in the majority.

Some people complain when someone "outs" an ongoing auciton, but that doesn't make it a rule or a board rule. We've never even had a poll about Net54 members' on the topic so don't even know prevaling opinion. Though you will get some people mad at you if you do it.

Though there are some offical board rules.

Last edited by drcy; 09-13-2020 at 03:35 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-13-2020, 03:37 PM
glynparson's Avatar
glynparson glynparson is offline
Glyn Parson
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Blandon PA
Posts: 2,184
Default Sell whenever you choose

When other people
Start paying your bills they can start telling you when you should or shouldn’t sell something. Until then do what you are comfortable with.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-13-2020, 04:03 PM
lowpopper's Avatar
lowpopper lowpopper is offline
Greg C
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: LONG ISLAND, NY
Posts: 575
Default

Sell immediately. It’s memorabilia, not crime scene evidence or anything directly correlated to their passing. Don’t let others guilt you into not selling something when it’s hot.
__________________
EBAY STORE: ROOKIE-PARADE
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-13-2020, 04:06 PM
rhettyeakley's Avatar
rhettyeakley rhettyeakley is offline
Rhett Yeakley
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Idaho
Posts: 2,655
Default

Not really an ethical dilemma in my opinion. I know that as soon as a player passes away any autographs that I have in my ebay store get snatched up super fast. I learned that Al Kaline had passed away a little while ago as between working on patients I happened to look at my phone and noticed I had sold 5-6 different signed Kaline cards within a 15 minute period and didn't even have to look at the news, I knew what that meant. Same thing happened the other day with Hockey player Dale Hawerchuk.

I think the only unethical thing could be to list at an astronomical price (10-20x what they were going for previous) to try to cash in on the craze, even that is a bit debatable.
__________________
Check out my YouTube Videos highlighting VINTAGE CARDS https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbE..._as=subscriber

ebay store: kryvintage-->https://www.ebay.com/sch/kryvintage/...p2047675.l2562
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-13-2020, 04:17 PM
bnorth's Avatar
bnorth bnorth is online now
Ben North
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 9,852
Default

The only unethical thing I can think of is canceling winning bids to relist the item at a much higher price. Selling ASAP is only good business.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-15-2020, 05:11 AM
todeen's Avatar
todeen todeen is offline
Tim Odeen
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,926
Default

Lol

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
__________________
Barry Larkin, Joey Votto, Tris Speaker, 1930-45 Cincinnati Reds, T206 Cincinnati
Successful deals with: Banksfan14, Brianp-beme, Bumpus Jones, Dacubfan (x5), Dstrawberryfan39, Ed_Hutchinson, Fballguy, fusorcruiser (x2), GoCalBears, Gorditadog, Luke, MikeKam, Moosedog, Nineunder71, Powdered H20, PSU, Ronniehatesjazz, Roarfrom34, Sebie43, Seven, and Wondo
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bid Retraction Etiquette nat Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 14 03-04-2020 10:14 PM
BST etiquette question KLSDAD Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 14 01-24-2013 02:39 PM
Need Advice on Selling (Modern Player) Autographed Baseballs M's_Fan Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 6 05-09-2011 04:10 PM
board etiquette Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 0 08-04-2006 07:36 AM
A quick note on selling etiquette Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 5 11-08-2005 11:23 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:36 PM.


ebay GSB